X-Men - the last stand(Dont read if you havent seen the movie=)

[Danubi]

Anybody watch that movie?

I think its good, i like the idea that the good guys die. but in the end, dosnt the chess pawn move ?when magneto tries to use hes powers on it?

[Darkwill]

I was truely dissappointed with the movie. I was so hyped to see it and saw the midnight showing. Great special effects sorry ass story line. They ruined the x-men name by not following the books. Spiderman is successful because of this reason and they can continue to make more of them. Cant with x-men now!

[Sieges]

Ya the chess piece moved at the end when he tried to use his powers. I enjoyed the film as well.

[Awakened]

They can make more Xmen movies, maybe you didnt stay for the end of the credits when they showed how Xavier transferred his mental whatever into that dude that had operating organs but no mental crap

[Arkons]

Brett Ratner is a hack. the end.

the movie was entertaining despite the director. he fucked it up and luckily it was still worth watching. Too many mutants ... hermaphrodite mutants that have shockwave powers ... gay.

Only saving grace was Ian McKellan being such a badass.

edit: oh yea, way too many corny fucking lines.

[hellsfinest]

ya sorta ghey they just killed off a ton of cast members like that. the storyline was totally weak as shit and dark pheonix was much more powerful than that. wolverine was supposed to end up gettin w/ jean grey in the end of the comic series and cyclops n havoc go evil. total shit o well.

[Arillious]

Not as good as it could of been. Did not have the same feel as the other ones. Killing Cyclopes off like he was nothing was pretty gay also.

[Arkons]

cyclops was a weak character anyway. Killing of Xavier, seemingly, sucked.

[hellsfinest]

should have made cyclops go evil or something and pheonix on her own. i mean for fucks sakes she was supposed to drain the energy from stars n shit and all she did was let herself die to wolverine in the end. total shite. was sorta bullshit that wolverine, beast, storm, iceman, kitty, and colossus could take on all those mutants only 3 were adults n the rest are all a bunch of kids. who the fuck is gonna teach physics, math n brainy classes to the kids now that xavier is dead? wolverine teaching math lol? ok im rambling... fucking booze...........

[Ewwok]

damit i wanted to see Arch Angel, Omega Red, Sinister, and Apocalypse... Xavier needs to hurry up and be Onslaught and own some shit... god damit movie was ok... entertaining but totally lost the story and made it shit

[Daefuin]

There is a short trailer at the end of the credits...

[Dempig]

They also fucked up juggernaut.

He isnt a fucking mutant , yet they made him one in the movie. Hes a fucking human, Leeches power wouldnt of done shit to him.

[Dempig]

Plus how insanely tamed down they made dark phoenix and magneto. Magneto was MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH more powerful in the comics.

[Arillious]

They also fucked up juggernaut.

He isnt a fucking mutant , yet they made him one in the movie. Hes a fucking human, Leeches power wouldnt of done shit to him.

They had to change some things due to realistic factors. Jean Grey got abducted by aliens or some shit in the comics didnt she?

And yeah, magneto was pretty strong, he picked up a damn bridge and just destroyed those cars like they were nothing. I think Magneto was supposed to be the 3rd strongest mutant behind Jean and xavier.

[Jotok]

Well, they have been fucking it up since the first one but Last Stand really butchered it. I can't think of a time when cyclops has "died" in the books let alone be killed by Jean Grey. Now he was possessed by Apocalyse for awhile but he never truely died.


While I did enjoy the movie from an action movie viewpoint, the comic booker lover in me wanted to gouge out the eyes of the director. Total hack job.

[Saradin]

I'll hax ur fase

[Jotok]

Yeah? Well i'll give you the five knuckle shuffle across the nose.

[Arillious]

Well, they have been fucking it up since the first one but Last Stand really butchered it. I can't think of a time when cyclops has "died" in the books let alone be killed by Jean Grey. Now he was possessed by Apocalyse for awhile but he never truely died.


While I did enjoy the movie from an action movie viewpoint, the comic booker lover in me wanted to gouge out the eyes of the director. Total hack job.

I thought the first 2 were done as well as anyone could expect, the last one while being better from a action viewpoint, lacked bigtime in authencity and story.

[Jotok]

I thought the first 2 were done as well as anyone could expect, the last one while being better from a action viewpoint, lacked bigtime in authencity and story.


I think the one thing that has really bugged me about all the movies is that the girl playing Rogue has the worst southern accent I have ever heard. Oh and that all the women playing female charactes don't look like the comic book ones. I wat my rogues and jean greys with big ass titties and tiny waists.

[Saradin]

Dunno I'm pretty happy with Storm imo and Jean Grey.....but yes, very very very disappointed in Rogue. Not good looking whatsoever.

[Skcalidrone]

Yeah, a few things

I thought X1 and X2 were really good and entertaining, but this one was kind of disappointing for a few reasons.

They "killed" off way too many mutants. When a mutant died in the comics, like for real, you couldn't believe it. It was a big "no fucking way", and this is why I couldn't really take the death of Cyclops, Jean Grey, and seemingly Xavier/Magneto seriously. By the end of the film, Xavier and Magneto already are on their way back.

That they just introduce a bunch of great characters to make them absolutely awful. Characters like Angel and Shadowcat were really cool in certain situations. With some standard combat training, they allowed for some creative solutions to typical problems seen in the comics. In X3, Shadowcat is a 12 year old girl who can walk through walls but its not like she can actually kill anyone, let alone a mutant.

In the movie's defense, they're killing off the psychics because they are way too powerful in the Marvel universe. They are taking a whole new storyline with the movies, one that seems more feasable for cinematography. While I don't like them changing the story, I'm more than happy accepting changes if they're good. I'm thinking its near impossible to actually represent a decent "X-men vs. Brotherhood of Evil Mutant" royal rumble in the middle of New York City (which is really what we all want to see). While the final fight scene was pretty anti-climactic, they did their best by equipping the soldiers with plastic, and having a bunch of useless mutants running around etc. so that it made a little sense in the end.

I still liked X2 the best!

edit: yeah and rogue isn't hot, and is totally useless in this version of the Marvel world

and the next one on the docket is "Magneto" set for production in 2007. Looks like just a history of Magneto film. This could actually be decent.

[Dynamic]

The one part that really bothered me was that the golden gate bridge stayed up with no cables supporting it....but I know its a movie, physics don't apply..

I enjoyed the movie, but I never had a chance to read the comics, if I had I I'm sure I would be just as pissed as the rest of yall.

It was pretty lame how Cyclops was killed off like he was nothing, and the fact that Nightcrawler wasn't even in the movie...

Overall it could have been better, but I will still buy it when it comes out on DVD.

[Dempig]

I cant forgive them for fucking up juggs.

They didnt have to tell the whole backstory on the cytorak crystal (whatever the fuck its called) , or any of it at all for that matter. But to make him a mutant is retarded.

[Dempig]

Also anyone happen to know a torrent or dl with all 5 seasons of the original x men cartoon?

[Daefuin]

why wasnt gambit in any of the movies

[Dempig]

because gambit sux0rz

[Skcalidrone]

Gambit was a real loner, and has kinda wierd backstory. Also they couldn't work him in as Rogue's love interest because the directors already chose the newer Rogue/Iceman relationship, that turns into Iceman/Shadowcat I believe

[Calrenkarn]

Ya just watched X3 yesterday, would have given it an 8/10 basicly because it was a really dam good movie... and it was filmed here in Vancouver ^_^. Cant really say much more than what Skcalidrone has already said.. basicly summed up everything that had crossed my mind during/after the movie.

Also, just because they called the movie "The last stand" doesnt quite imply that it is the last movie.. there is still so much they could do but with the killing off of key characters I dont know which other powerful supervillians they could bring about.

[Dempig]

omega red or sinister would kick ass

[Jotok]

Omega red is a pussy. Sinister is cool. Should have Apocalyse or The Brood.

[Buto]

I'm crying...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3937653242682015759&q=Juggernaut+bitch

[Arillious]

I'd put it to rogue, you all are a bunch of faggots.

And buto that video is hilarious.

[Dempig]

Wow welcome to last year buto

[Arkons]

the reason that movies never stay true to comic books is because comic books are written like shit and need to be improved.

[Dempig]

Whata bout the fact that juggs and xavier are step brothers , but dont even acknowledge eachother in the movie?

Is that due to bad comic book writing?

[Dempig]

Or the fact that collosus vs juggs would of made the perfect fight , yet the dumbasses made it wolverine vs juggs. weve seen enough of wolerine damnit.

[Celestia]

First off I have to express my deep disappointment in Rogue - she has always been my character, but they left her fucking pointless and weak! I personally need a Rogue that has absorbed Ms. Marvel powers(super strength and flight). Anna Paquin looked alright in the 2nd x-men, but she is nowhere near as sexy as Rogue should be.

I can't believe they passed on Gambit again! I mean it would be hard to find someone to play that part, but still he was badass. It would have been perfect to bring him in with rogue in this movie since they threw kitty pride in with Iceman(fucking gay move btw - cradle robbing).

The story line way way too choppy in this film, they cut out a bunch of different little sections from different points in that perticular series.
I don't remember who mentioned it, but yes, the Jean Grey/Pheonix story did occur in space(atleast that was supposed to be when they killed off Pheonix the first time - if memory serves).
The trany shockwave and callista are part of the morloc story, which really has no business being woven together with the brotherhood of evil.

I honestly think there were only two saving graces in this film if they ever decide to continue the story line.
1.) They kept Xavier alive, even if he was in the body of another person. If you really think about it, this move was setup from the begining of the film, and it works out in the end cause actually killing the character would be retarded.
2.) Magneto with the chess piece. This is the actual thing that saved the story imho. They left the door open so that the damage the movie did to the storyline could be reversed. This is the only hope I have towards any other future x-men movies (and maybe the promise that Bryan Singer will come back).

Last but not least - was anyone else sitting there asking themselves "where the fuck is Alan Cummings?? (Nightcrawler)" I mean he was completely striped from the movie - wtf was that all about??


Sorry if this was all sorts or random - there were so many little things that I could pick at, so I'm kinda all over the place with my thoughts. :p

Movie was a good action piece, but I expected so much more.

[Celestia]

I'm crying...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3937653242682015759&q=Juggernaut+bitch

....Fucking wow.....I just worked out my abs from laughing so hard.

Priceless.

[Dempig]

HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE OWN THE INTERNET AND NOT HAVE SEEN THAT?!?!?!?

Its like a year old omgosh

[Ekimus]

Last but not least - was anyone else sitting there asking themselves "where the fuck is Alan Cummings?? (Nightcrawler)" I mean he was completely striped from the movie - wtf was that all about??

I was wondering if he would be in this movie considering I hadn't seen any previews with him in it and he was a wonderful part of the last movie. During the big fight near the end if you watch closely there is a mutant somewhere in the crowd that has his exact same power (short teleportation) and they use the same special effect for it (a dark cloud 'poof'). I was pissed off at that after the movie.

I think the whole Xavier being killed and put in another body has to do with Patrick Stewart not wanting to do another movie if they make one. Theres no other good reason to kill off his character only to bring the character back in another body. If thats not the reason fuck that.

As for gambit, skrow told me they were going to put him in this movie but the actor they wanted to play him refused so they left him out. Which sucks because he was a badass. The movie overall was decent, however the story and character development was so bad. They introduce a dozen cool heroes and you know nothing about them at all from the movie. Why is angels dad so pissed off hes a mutant that the kid would try and save his wings off? Theres a ton of story's they could of told, but they did nothing but tell you about how the dark phoenix was dangerous.

[Dempig]

The whole xavier thing is a giant fucking plot hole. Either that , or Xavier no longer has his powers , considering they get their powers from their cells that have mutated in their bodies , Xaviers new body would just have plain ol human cells thus he shouldnt have any powers at all.

[Celestia]

The whole xavier thing is a giant fucking plot hole. Either that , or Xavier no longer has his powers , considering they get their powers from their cells that have mutated in their bodies , Xaviers new body would just have plain ol human cells thus he shouldnt have any powers at all.

While that makes sense, I wouldn't write off the idea that Xavier will have his powers in his new body. The simple idea of a person shifting their entire consciousness to another body is far fetched enough to begin with, so I wouldn't be suprised if they made up some story about his powers being retained within his mind and not the cells. Again, he was able to transfer himself after his physical body was destroyed, so don't count on them not giving Xavier his powers.

[Dempig]

http://www.mininova.org/tor/181549

Found it . Complete torrent of all the old x men cartoons if anyone wants

[Skrowfunk]

From IMDB:

-Bryan Singer (who wrote and directed the first two movies) was supposed to direct and co-write the film's script, but when he was given the offer to take over the problematic Superman Returns (2006) from Brett Ratner, he left the project, taking with him most of the production staff, including composer and editor John Ottman, cinematographer Newton Thomas Sigel, writers Mike Dougherty and Dan Harris, and production designer Guy Dyas. Director Matthew Vaughn then stepped into the director's chair, overseeing the script and production, only to leave 9 weeks before filming, unable to commit to the year-long production schedule which would keep him away from his family in England. In an odd twist of fate, Ratner filled the vacated position. Ironically, Ratner was also a contender to direct X-Men (2000) before Singer got the job.

Fucking Ratner should have been left to destroy the Superman movie, it looks terrible anyway. I really wonder what The Last Stand could have been like if Bryan Singer and all his buds stayed on the project.


As for gambit:

-Josh Holloway was offered the role of Gambit, but turned it down because the character was too similar to his character on "Lost" (2004). As a result, the character was never added to the film since this would have been a special cameo put in later had Josh decided to sign on.

[Dhabu]

I really felt the lack of Bryan Singer in this 3rd movie. The first two, I watch over and over; the 2nd especially really hit the mark imo. Lil shit like when Iceman chills Wolverine's soda, Yuriko cracking her fingers, that kind of detail. Brings the whole X universe a little closer to home, if you get me.

Last Stand...like some said, hack job. Has the elements for a sweet finish, and doesn't get it together. Only saving grace is that they leave openings for Magneto and Xavier to come back (I had to watch it a 2nd time to catch the post-credits bit ;)...and the same logic suggests that maybe Rogue and Mystique aren't as gone as you might think. (Hope not, anyway).

I dunno who said Magneto was underpowered in the movie; he pretty much does whatever he wants, metal-related, imo. I'm no expert on the comics; what more could he do?

Dhabu

Oh and Buto...that video is so very, very win. "Bow down to a true pimp, BITCH!...OH it's the JUGGERNAUT SHEEEIT"

[Phion]

omfg it's deehabu! Where have you been?

[Dhabu]

I've been workin a ton, putting my new system (WOOHOO) together, playing a ton of Planetside and even more X3: Reunion.

I was thinking of renewing my WoW subscription just so I could run through Orgrimmar at 60fps, but all this talk of Teir 3 gear and 80dps 1hers just gave me EQ flashbacks, so I didn't.

I'm lurkin tho. Show me our next game and I'm there.


Dhabu

[Utan the Fool]

Xmen 1. Nazi Encampment with Magneto
Xmen 2. Nightcralwer in the White House

Xmen 3 essentially went a complete tangent.

They never talked about mutant classes

Magneto never tryed to get Jean to join the brotherhood in the first 2 movies.

Jean had barely any lines. (Yea Famke can open her pretty little mouth)

Killing off Xavier thats like Mortal Kombat, killing off Liu Kang wtf? Yea they did that...

Too many mutants too little time, I call this "Darth Maul Syndrome". Good characters few lines they dont get to do a sequel.

Mystique.. wtf? Magneto would never dismiss Raven like that.

I never read the comic books, but i enjoyed the cartoon from the saturday morning show
And i enjoyed the manipulation of the Hellfire Club.

I always thought (from the movie perspective) The pheonix was from the radiation from Magneto on Liberty island. that would have been an easy flow of storyline instead of having a split personality all of a sudden.

Killing off Scott. whoever plays scott. i didnt like him anyway. but he was suppose to be somewhat of the leader of the xmen. they never really gave him that persona so its just a waste of a character.

Where did nightcrawler go? i see the commercial for the xmen game, hes in it wtf?

Storm was too much of a bitch in this one. Ever since Xavier said that he wanted her to lead the xmen she went on a power trip.

Completely disappointed.

[Arillious]

Ok this is the biggest plot hole of the movie by far!

Rogue freaking out cause she cant bang ice man. Ever think to wear a condom? Just make sure that shit doesnt tear cause then she would freeze his cock off and she'd probably grow one. Hate it when that happens. Definently a double bagger.

Discuss.

[Daefuin]

Hahaha.

[Ekimus]

ru drunk RIGHT NOW daefuin?

[Daefuin]

no, havent had anything since i got sick from that bottle of vodka a week or 2 ago

[Skcalidrone]

Ok this is the biggest plot hole of the movie by far!

Rogue freaking out cause she cant bang ice man. Ever think to wear a condom? Just make sure that shit doesnt tear cause then she would freeze his cock off and she'd probably grow one. Hate it when that happens. Definently a double bagger.

Discuss.

would've made the movie better IMO. Maybe its already happened in the past? Maybe thats the real reason Rogue can't get too close to guys?

(because of her giant mutant ice-cock)

[Dempig]

Magneto can do some pretty bad ass shit. Im just gonna copy and paste some shit from wikipedia , but he does a hell of a lot more then fuck with metal. just read the wikipedia on him if you wanna read all his powers.

"As the Master of Magnetism, he can: lift, move, and alter objects (sometimes weighing many thousands of tons) through magnetic force alone, manipulate the iron-enriched blood-flow to one's brain to induce aneurysms or unconsciousness, control ferrous particles in the atmosphere (even the very air), alter the Earth's magnetic field which extends into space as the Magnetosphere, increase his own strength to the extent of being able to exchange blows with at least Colossus, erect electro-magnetic force fields with a high degree of impenetrability (protecting himself or others from almost any psionic, energy, or physical attack), and achieve an indefinite range of other effects.

Electromagnetic Spectrum Manipulation: Although Magneto's primary power is magnetism, he seems to have some ability to project or manipulate any form of energy that is related to magnetism. He can fire and absorb bolts of electricity and of pure magnetic force, reverse lasers and other forms of radiation or energy when fired at him, create enough intense heat as infrared radiation to destroy a metal door, and become invisible by deflecting visible light around his body, as he is able to manipulate the entire electromagnetic spectrum. (He has also dispersed a "flame cage" created by the original Human Torch, but whether he had simply expanded his personal force field or employed something else entirely is unclear.) However, Magneto almost always uses magnetism, so perhaps it is more difficult for him to manipulate other forms of energy.
"

[Arillious]

Think you are looking to deep into it dhabu. They had to change some things to make it more believable. Just like Gandalf in LoTR, if they had some wizard hurling fireballs left and right it just wouldnt be as believable.

[Dhabu]

Yeah, while I appreciate that what Dempig quoted is more "authentic" than the movies, I can also understand why they gave his power the limits they did for the movies. Being able to control all forms of energy, and being able to instantly knock everyone out from iron-in-blood disruption woulda made for a very short battle scene :P.

Question though: If he was as powerful as that in the comics, how did he not just win early on? None of the Xmen, except maybe Xavier, can touch that shit.

Dhabu

[Dempig]

I honostly didnt read the comics , just watched the cartoon all the fucking time , and read alot of wikis about different super heroes and shit.

But even in the cartoon , magneto wrecked the x-mens shit all the time by himself.