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[Vega]

Hey all,

I see you guy's quit that POS WoW game. I played with you guy's for about the first five month's or so, quit when they came out with the garbage PvP rankings. Any thoughts on what you guys will be leaning towards playing in the future? Only things that I have seen that remotely hold any promise are Darkfall, Warhammer Online and Vanguard. With Darkfall and Warhammer most likely not going to be seen until late 07' and Vanguard opening with a PvP server in Q1, many of you going to try it out? Also, does Darwoth still hang around these parts?

[Meter]

We have our hopes set on Darkfall. Currently some people are playing Archlord and Eve untill it gets here.
I have not seen Darwoth in a while, he does not frequent these boards as much as he used to.

[Darwoth]

hey vega long time dude, glad to see your still around.

does your old email address on hotmail still work?

im not with this niggernest of tards and eurotrash anymore, most of the folks you remember from shadowbane have quit etc. you know the deal.

can find me over at scarybadguys.com , at the moment we are griefing folks in wow until such a time as darkfall or whatever looks good comes out, warhammer is trash as is vanguard so really darkfall is the only thing that holds promise.

still dick around a bit in UO on the player emulators to atm~


edit: and no dude, they didnt quit wow. they just all quit and joined a pve guild that raids 6 hours a night 6 days a week (dominion, the one we used to laugh at nonstop back on arch), there is still about 20 or so that play (including most of the leadership) they just play under a pve guild =P

eyepatch is even an officer of said guild, will be interesting to see which guild he decides to stay with when the time comes.

hell meter himself has like 5 level 60s he bots 24/7 with in azshara, winterspring and western plaguelands =P

[Arillious]

Darwoth, its time to move on man. This kind of shit should be beneath you by now.

[Saradin]

I think maybe 10 of us at most play still? Close to 30+ of us stopped completely and haven't looked back since. As for what goes ingame, I have no clue because it's not even installed on my computer anymore.

[Darwoth]

Darwoth, its time to move on man. This kind of shit should be beneath you by now.



thanks for the input arillious, ill let you know when i need you to tell me what the situation is.


but since you mentioned it, what part of my above statement was wrong exactly?

[Daefuin]

i dont play wow~

[Darwoth]

i dont play wow~

yeah but......

1> eyepatch
2> toad
3> meter
4> seoinage
5> snacthez
6> jimbly
7> stuck
8> scape
9> ekimus
10> wuzawuza
11> celestia
12> ohm
13> skrowfunk
14> highend
15> serious
16> dhabu
17> azulu
18> phion
19> yemanja

and a few im forgetting do!

so by looking at your own roster we can deduce that out of 38 people, at least 19 still play.

then figure in the fact that of those who dont play some of them quit because "wow is to blue of a game for us so were all..... quitting, yeah..... thats it" and/or couldnt get into dominion.

[Haanibal]

Darwoth you're still a funny motherfucker. You do got a point though, I'm not hating on anyone I love all DB members equally, but WoW pushed our guild to the blue side. We need to think long and hard before nominating leadership for the next game we decide to dive headfirst into. I vote for me and Astoron, Darwoth can lead the raids, when you yell over TS I almost shit my pants everytime.

[Ekimus]

sup retarded thread inc

[Astoron]

Yes, I will lead my dick into some pussy. Once that happens all my blue balls will be gone.

[Haanibal]

sup retarded thread inc

And if by retarded you are implying that disbanding the guild to join an entirely different one, and telling the members of the current guild that Darkenbane is leaving when a little under 50% of the guild still plays, then I'd have to say yes. You are absolutely correct in saying it's retarded. I'm still partial to the reasoning Darwoth makes, while I don't entirely agree with him on the issue, he's the only DBer I see standing up for his opinion, and he has a strong point. DB could have kept playing, instead the core members gave up and joined Dominion, I'm still not quite sure why but what the hell....

[Skrowfunk]

That is correct! Some of us are still playing! For those who are interested, the Ex-Red Lobster Employees have opened recruitment for all Ex-Darkenbane Employees.

Yes, even you Darwoth can join! ..provided you can make it through the guild's rigorous two month trial period.

For those interested in joining the crustacean crusaders, I urge you to find more information about us at our guild website and post your application in our forums at www.redlobster.com

I also recommend that you join before BC is released, because endless shrimp is back!

(but only for a limited time.)

[Ekimus]

DISCLAIMER: Long and boring post ahead. Also semi drunk when typing this so ignore typos.

Darwoth is trying to start shit and you go right along with it. I guess you probably wern't around when Darwoth left (got kicked out) of DB a while back and threw and tantrum so large even I thought it was a bit crazy. You and Astoron have "volunteered" to take over running DB a dozen times now and you both are pretty much clueless. Would you rather the 20 or so db still playing wow quit and start playing vanguard with astoron which is basically the biggest bluebie looking game made in the last 10 years?

Db quit months ago because the game for the first year and a half did not support a pvp guild, and as a pvp guild we could not progress in the game without hating everyone in our guild. The guild had a number of people who couldn't stand playing but did so to help the guild, a number of people who would come and go over time and expect to get everything they wanted because they were long time members. The whole time you had a leadership fighting to try and keep 40 active people together to advance in the game and support the 20 people who wanted to keep playing. Eventually enough people wanted to stop playing so the guild was deemed done in wow.

Now that I'm done explaining what happened to make DB quit wow, let me explain what has happened since. After the decision very few DB'ers kept playing, probably less then 10. After a while Eyepatch was asked if he would join Dominion, he declined because he was still playing with the 5 or so Db'ers that logged in everyday. I played at the time but very sparsely. After a while Dominion asked if he would join and all the DB'ers still playing could join with him (I guess they needed a priest and anyone whos played with eyepatch a lot would know hes one of the best on the server). I don't know of all the details but after a while everyone playing joined Dominion (I didn't because I barely played at the time). Over time more and more DB'ers have started playing again and most of which have joined Dominion. Out of the 19 people Darwoth listed 4 of them are not in dominion, the rest are as far as I know. Wuza joined another guild before the Dominion offer and hes been with that guild since. Skrowfunk, Ohm, and myself are in our own guild doing BG's mostly. The fact is even with all 19 of the people who play thats still not enough to currently play wow as a guild. You cannot advance in gear with 19 people, it takes 45-50 plain and simple.

I don't really have anything against you Hannibal, frankly I don't know you very well but you seem like a decent person. This is not the first time you or Astoron has jumped up and said you wanted to lead the guild but you really don't know even half of the story.

Now, with Burning Crusade around the corner and blizzard limiting raiding to 25 people and completely redoing everything about their pvp system I would say a good time for DB to make a comeback, if it ever is going to make one in when BC comes out. Anyone who's actually interested in playing with DB should probably post in a PRIVATE forum to see who would be interested in trying to get people back together and play. Just because people are in dominion right now to enjoy the game they are playing doesn't mean they aren't open to trying to make something happen instead of sitting here starting drama because Darwoth wants you to.

[churro]

sup vega haven't seen you since sb, haven't even visited the forums since sb round 2 failed really (was after the whole wow debacle) figured id just say hi and how goes.

ps pancakes own, and both saradin and once suck at dota.

[Darwoth]

as per usual ekimus knows not what e is talking about, which is why he frequently asks me what happened with suchandsuch or soandso.

to give as brief a summary as i can.

essentially after you left to go to iraq the already dwindling guild was further destroyed both by eyepatchs inability to stay true to form of a pvp guild, and by saradins return where he was constantly trying to fuck over everyone else in the guild for loot.

the majority of the members you would think of when you thought of darkenbane didnt really care a whole lot about "progressing" it was the lootwhores and the carebears within the officership that was concerned with what new purple they could dig up, specifically toad and saradin.

after that we had a swath of bluebies recruited to fill raid slots, since i was vocally against letting said people in, once again i was the "asshole holding back the guild"

anyhow as time progressed everything that made the guild what it once was frowned upon and gone against, older members either left or wuit and were replaced with more and more retards. i could give so many specific examples id be here all day and i dont give a shit enough about it at this point to do so.

remember that video of daefuin ninja looting ragnaros after they got several of the guys suspended? well that was my idea, and it was excellently done by daefuin. would think everyboyd would think it was awesome right? wrong half the fucking whiney ass members (many of whom are the ones still playing) were crying about how they looked like ninjas now and boohoo causing eyepatch to tell everyone not to do anything like that again, what a joke lol.

behind the scenes lies and poisonings of the well continued to take place over aim and irc between the folks currently in the officer positions, saradin hated me because i stood in the way of him helping himself to all the rogue loot over the other people, freuqently drama explosions would occur in guildchat and it was my job to deal with them, nevermind the fact these were a direct result of the other, they remained quiet, so such instances were attributed to myself.

meanwhile eyepatch hated me because he was a depressed emo retard that gave way to much of a shit about what "others on the server thought" about us and about trying to appease everyone in the guild, including those that didnt belong there something that i am.......... well the opposite of. and in doing so further destroyed the guild.

one of the final straws happened when scapes brother kenaryn was denied admission to the guild by eyepatch for whatever reason, he was told by someone that i was the one cockblocking his brother from getting in so he gets pissy and leaves in a swath of "fuck you darwoths", you know the drill.

anyhow eventually eyepatch stated he would leave the guild if i remained in any sort of leadership position and would take the guildbank with him, meanwhile a "vote" was to take place among the officers as to who would take the reigns myself or eyepatch, the vote was overseen by meter, who come to find out said that if i won he would shut down the website and forums.

obviously, i lost =P

about 2 months after i departed the guild imploded on itself, people were quitting because they didnt xyz drop, buto got fed up dealing with not only all the retards he had top babysit multiple times a week but with the pressure his RL friendship with saradin was undergoing due to saradins greed and quit.

this was the deathknell of the guild because nobody else had the capaility to step up to the plate and it was decided to quit rather than suffer the indignity of everyone leaving for other guilds over time, so the mass exodus lasted about a week and after that everyone was playing again, only under dominion where they continue to carebear it up every night lol.

since then i made my own guild and managed to establish a core baseline of people, in the 6 months or so of our existence we have already become infamous on the server for being the biggest assholes around and usually have a thread or two bitching about us every week, and thats with a minute 5 people playing atm. something that is frowned upon im sure by most here, but their irrelevant bluebies so who gives a shit =p

yeah, sure, you "cant play wow with a guild of 20 people" lol. thats only true if your players are a gaggle of lootwhores and carebears lol.

and that brings us to present day, im sure you will hear all kinds of assinine things about me in the private confines of tells or aim etc lots of folks have, after they found out they were horseshit they stopped talking.

anyhow ive typed more than i planned to and i probably rambled a bit, so im done with this thread unless something catches my eye that just begs a response. it used to genuinely piss me off about what happened here given the history, but now it just serves to provide me with amusement at the failure it became, for the most part everyone that made the name for darkenbane is gone, replaced by the swath of fucktards you see before you, half of whom you can gurantee have no intention of ever playing a real pvp game.

hope your safe home from iraq now sir, and if your still in that shithole keep your head down nigger~

[Buto]

Ignoring most of drama.

Its quite simple : DB left because WoW is not a PvP game. You can't even really grief people. You had some cool ideas Darwoth, phuckin someone's honor grind, killin guards, but then you got told you can't kill guards. And while the honor grind thing was funny as sh!t imo, its really only entertainment for a couple of people to do, not an entire guild.

- You could raid towns and shut down ... questing? They'll just move having lost absolutely nothing but some time.

- You can BG. Carry and tap flags. Its not gank style which is personally my preference and 9 out of 10 games are against scrubs just trying to rep up.

Hell i'm pretty sure on your website, Darwoth, you talk about how bluebie and gay WoW is so I probably don't need to go further, you get the point. Its NOT a Darkenbane game.

Why people still play? Probably cause there's nothing else worth playing atm. I'm playing Final Fantasy XII atm, NO PVP AT ALL!!! I'm so carebear! I'm just waiting for a game that screams "THIS is the game Darkenbane has been waiting for. THIS is the game where the PvP is meaningful. THIS is the game that will bring back the hate tells." Its not out yet. Maybe that's Darkfall, maybe Vanguard will finally put in their PvP code and it'll be awesome, maybe Warhammer will be the end all PvP game. Who knows. All I know is there is absolutely no game out there worth playing as a PvP guild atm.

Whether people are playing WoW or Final Fantasy or whatever, I genuinely believe that once a new game is set in stone that DB will play as a guild, we'll come back and make the DB name proud. I'll take your quote Hannibal : "Once DB, always DB". What people are playing now is just filler until the next DB game.

I'll see you guys there and seriously, I can't wait. I've been reading nonstop about Darkfall and Warhammer, bugging my developer friend about Vanguard PvP every week, basically researching as much as I can. We'll have a new game.

[Darwoth]

Hell i'm pretty sure on your website, Darwoth, you talk about how bluebie and gay WoW is so I probably don't need to go further, you get the point. Its NOT a Darkenbane game.



thats just it sir buto, it didnt USED to be a darkenbane game, now it is the IDEAL one =P



aside from that, i never said wow wasnt a carenbear game, it certainly is. however i enjoy it because i fuck with said carebears at every turnk, anyone who reads the wow boards on a semi frequent basis sees the things we do here and there, pretty funny stuff, and then theres just the basic shit like killing people 50 times in the course of a few hours causing their entire guild to come out and get themselves killed.

the point isnt whether or not wow is a pvp'ers game, the point is that "darkenbane" is not playing to kill people as darkenbane, they are playing in a bluebie guild whoring instances every day, pardon me while i choke on my lung at the humor there.

i realize your trying to do some damage control here, but we both know the score. and the fact of the matter when you get down to it and are done going back and forth is that there are 20ish members playing including the primary leadership, they arent playing as darkenbane, they are playing as dominion, lol.

20ish members was enough for the guild in eq, 5 members was enough in daoc, 20ish was enough in shadowbane for a long time. eq and daoc had pve where mass numbers were needed to just like wow, the difference was nobody cared.

if you offered someone all the loot in the world to play as someone else they wou;ld of laughed at the idea, now that is reversed, and the thought of anyone here putting the guild ahead of themselves, or having an iota of loyalty to it is laughable.

understandable given that maybe 4 people here have any claim whatsoever to "darkenbane" at this juncture.

to be honest, and as much as gray and i have butted heads and would like to punch each other in the face. you really should give the domain and name back to grayrage as he has far more claim to it than any of you people, and at least he can succesfully run a bluebie guild instead of fucking up at both pvp and pve and joining a different one claiming that the game sucks but yet playing it daily ever since. there are certainly more members of darkenbane in die than there are in "darkenbane" at this juncture anyway =P

maybe you can be "pancakes and hyrup" or "emo soldiers" possibly "the super turbo awesomeness club"


btw vanguard is garbage, warhammer is another wow, and darkfall probably wont be out until i have gray hairs on my sack.

you all can come catch a few energy bolts from me in UO if your bored, hell you have an amazing veteran of unmatched knowledge in the form of age, im sure he would have you all recalling off of death runes and getting drylooted in 5 minutes flat =P

[Dempig]

I get hate tells all the time in Archlord , its great fun. The entire server hates us for wtfpwning them on a daily basis.

[Saradin]

For the record Darwoth, I don't hate you at all. I think both you and Eyepatch tried to do what you thought was best and ended up disagreeing on how things should be run. We both have our flaws, but when I sit back and look at things more clearly it really was just a difference of opinion and what we have now is the result of many heated arguments. I'll just leave it at that. As for games, I won't play another unless it's 100% pvp oriented and something where skill > timesink....which means probably never. I guess DOTA will be my perm filler then inbetween console games - FF12 like Butoism.

And Ekimus is right, DB has been done in WoW for a long time. Only 1 of the OL's still play ( Eyepatch ) consistently to my knowledge. We stuck around for a year to see if things would get better, they didn't, so we left with a couple of us hitting R14 and imo beating that game from the pvp standpoint since you can't grief enough to the point where it would give me pleasure.

[Sufari]

Archlord is the place for grief an hate tells atm, but i wont deny that the game is a flaming pile of dogshit ...... its still kinda fun tho.

Playing WoW with DB was real fun on many different levels, but at some point shit did get real twisted. the reason i recall the final nail being driven into db in wow was Seoinage quiting due to a wow addiction being the only main tank that was truely active. it fucked alot of things up.

Buto quit shortly after that an once those 2 key people stepped out progression into "pve" came to a complete standstill.

when these events took place the 32 <lol people we had that would only log on for raids was cut down to 9-12 people that consintanly logged on to play everynight an actuallly somewhat enjoyed wow.

after this time the guild went into wow limbo, sometime after DB was pulled from the game it was stated that the tag would remain an such but the guild was done as a whole.........

i cant place the date in my mind but Dar burnt the forums down at some point. ill never forget that day, or the phonecall i got from wonderboy about it was weird kinda felt like a gf had dumped me that day :/


Seems to me like we made alot of stuff really hard on ourselves. On the pvp side we were a force to be reckoned with weather it was Dar rapeing solo or Saradin leading solid BG group u can bet that when people went up agianst us they knew it would be a fight.

the pve side was a complete disaster with 4-5 people decidng who would get what loot with no dkp or true system in place it created tons of animosity within the guild. lootwhoring an tells on the sly were flying all the time during raids, and when the leadership finally got dkp into place it was all but 2 late :[

btw loot was never a problem for me being the only warlock in the guild was awsome im sure some wished my pvp prowess was better but i learned alot from u fuckers so ill always be in debt for that . shoulda hooked a lock up with a Toep fuckin haters.

anyways im sure shit coulda been done way diffrent than it was but what ev.

i wish all could move past all the BS an we could all get back together but that would involve alot of people putting there pride aside an some serious mending of da bridges

i can only speak from my own experiance within in DB as a wow recruit an have no busines speaking about the past or db as a whole game wise. but if people are looking for leadership Grayrage is a "Leader". mabye its time to merge the tribes an be truely be rdy for the next game.

sry for the long post its been real fun playing ARCHLORD with some of the db guys agian an im gratefull an happy to be incontact with alot of my E-friends agian. ive said it before but ill say it agian IMAGINE THE GUILD ALL OF US COULD PUT TOGETHER WITH ALL THE BS ASIDE OH WAIT THATS RIGHT ITS CALLED <Darkenbane>

[Arillious]

Its funny how the same story can be told in a multitude of different ways depending on your point of view. From my point of view it happened much like buto described it. We simply were not having fun anymore... so most of us quit.

I wish Darwoth and Eyepatch coulda worked things out differently because in thier own rights, they are 2 of the better players i've had the pleasure of playing with both skill and leadership wise. Not going to go into the details of what coulda been done etc but the bottom line is that it did not work out. Part of it was the game, part was thier different play and leadership styles.

I'm confident that if a game comes out that allows Darkenbane's true identity to come out then we will thrive in it. Until then people are buying time in thier own ways. Darwoth, I hope you put a guild of like-minded players such as yourself together because that should be a formidable opponent.

[Dempig]

Archlord is out guys. Its been out for a month.

[Haanibal]

Grayrage is not the answer for this guild. The core pvper's hated that douchebag, and that's that. He's a tool who's immersed in his own fantasy world of magical gayness. He roleplays a fag because he is probably one in real life. His wife wears the pants in the family and that's why he will never run this guild again. We are fine where we stand at the moment, until a decent game comes out it's not worth arguing over anymore. But saying give the guild back to a douchebag won't help shit either. So leave it alone.

[Darwoth]

Grayrage is not the answer for this guild. The core pvper's hated that douchebag, and that's that. He's a tool who's immersed in his own fantasy world of magical gayness. He roleplays a fag because he is probably one in real life. His wife wears the pants in the family and that's why he will never run this guild again. We are fine where we stand at the moment, until a decent game comes out it's not worth arguing over anymore. But saying give the guild back to a douchebag won't help shit either. So leave it alone.

your personal feeling on him are irrelevant as are mine.

gray made the guild, i maintained the guild when gray went off the deepend and was no longer in the picture, and the current people here destroyed it.

i have no interest in ever again representing darkenbane in any form.

that leaves gray, and he certainly has more claim to it than any of the others.

[Dempig]

I Shuld Be Leader Of Darkenbane Bexuz I Wuz In Dark Unity Lawl

[Dempig]

what the fuck niggers stop Fucking My All Caps Posts Up I Hate You I Hate You

Buto Edit : pwned imo

[Astoron]

I never volunteered myself to lead anything Ekimus. I guess the problem with written and not vocal communication is people don’t always see the sarcasm in a written post. My post above was simply a sarcastic comment and nothing more. Don’t sit there and point your finger at me and try to drag me into some bullshit crap about leadership and mark me for a game I play maybe 2 hours a week. I’m doing what most of the other Darkenbane players are doing, waiting for a good game that we can all enjoy.

[Samanel]

I skipped all the long ass posts, because its the same shit over and over....

As for a good PvP game that will fit for everyone, DoTA is the only one that will ever get close to a good PvP system, 5v5, 76(guessingt the number) Hero's to choose from, endless combos on how to make them powerful on equipment, and games usually last about 30 to 45 min...1hr if both sides are good and ends up being a stale mate till someone gets fully geared out and starts owning everyone.

Just think of it as WoW but in GOD Mode view.

FAR(Fequently Asked Rants):

R:But I dont want to buy another game amd the expansion!
A:It costs 29.99 for the bundle last time i saw it on sale, if you can still pay 14.99 for WoW, then stop bitching and buy it.

R:I played it and I die very easily!
A:Because your what most people call a n00b at pvp.

R:There are soo many heros and abilities, I cant learned them all!
A: If your able to learn all the mechanics/hotkeys etc... then this will be np for you

R:This game is soo stupid!
A:Then go back to your bluebie WoW, even if your just playing for PvP, I dont call that PvP, I call it "dying and respawning to your point and doing it again"....you know who has that same pattern? a NPC, so that means all of you that play WoW = bluebies! ;)

R:But I dont die you stupid n00b! Im l337 and can take on 5 players at a time.
A: Then that means your decked out in gear, that = bluebie.

R: But I got decked out because I reached R14 and got all the l337 end pvp gear!
A:That means your a Chinese Gold miner, which means your account has no value but the -14.99 you lose every month. And you followed the same pattern as a Gold Miner since you just farm all the BG's

Nuff said :)

[Dempig]

Except for every game of dota is full of leavers.

[Samanel]

Then you win on pwning them, isnt that what we want in PvP? Beat them down soo bad and often that they leave from frustration? ;)

If your team is the one that leaves, then find some friends that play DoTA and play together, everyone in pub is a n00b anyway

[Buto]

Saradin has my cell and is supposed to call me next time you all DotA it up so I can see what's changed since the very first incarnation, heh (its been awhile).

[Dempig]

i pub and i pwn beyatch.