To be Illegal, or not to be

[Manie]

Didn't feel like getting into the BS 9 page post's...

Just wanted to point out something I think is funny, "Illegal law's"?

It's being thrown around left and right, and I'm just curious who granted Darwoth and the few others on this board the power to decide which laws are legal and illegal? :P

I wonder when Darwoth will relize that everyone isn't a radical extremist from 200 years in the past.... Wish he would move to a diff country, He hates the USA government so much and it isn't going anywhere nor changing for his likes/dislikes so maybe he'll get a clue someday and move on to a country he likes... "United Extremist insanoid's of Darwoth", Hey, it's one country in the world that wouldn't need a military, you'd have there citizen's :)

Oh well, such is life if ya can't laugh at em, then what would ya do, cause he will never get a clue.


P.S. Darwoth, dude gotta see the movie "XXX" the new movie out with Vendesal (Prolly spelt wrong).... Couldn't help but think of you in there, there was this group I think called "Affinity 99", there theory was launch this new experimental Bio weapon the Russian's came up with on a few city's around the world destroying the city's, so that the other governments around the world accused each other and started wars and killed each other off... Then when all governments were destroyed from the wars, Affinity 99 could come along and enjoy TRUE FREEDOM!

May wanna seek membership, I hear there lookin for head cases like ya.

[Nexex]

Your entire post was fucking moronic. Congrats!

[Manie]

I wasn't posting it to prove a point, post fact's, or change anyones opinion...

Although some people may take Darwoth seriously, I really can't cause I just don't see how someone can be so insane....

So basically, I'm laughing at him if ya think it's moronic... CooL! :P

[Darwoth]

dn't feel like getting into the BS 9 page post's...

Just wanted to point out something I think is funny, "Illegal law's"?

It's being thrown around left and right, and I'm just curious who granted Darwoth and the few others on this board the power to decide which laws are legal and illegal? :P"

we have been over this topic many times in the previous thread and really dont know why it is that this concept is so hard for you to understand, laws that are in direct contradiction to the constitution are illegal.

"I wonder when Darwoth will relize that everyone isn't a radical extremist from 200 years in the past...."

a radical extremist from 200 years in the past? so your stating that the founding fathers from 200 years ago were radical extremists? no surprise coming from a typical northeast anti american drone.

believeing in liberty is extreme to you?

"Wish he would move to a diff country, He hates the USA government so much and it isn't going anywhere nor changing for his likes/dislikes so maybe he'll get a clue someday and move on to a country he likes... "United Extremist insanoid's of Darwoth", Hey, it's one country in the world that wouldn't need a military, you'd have"

why would i move to a different country? despite the best efforts of people like yourself this is still the best country on the planet and if the stupid and power hungry reach the point of making things intolerable moving would be the last thing myself and others have on our minds....

not going anywhere yet, but it will eventually. every single day as more and more liberty is thrown into the furnace people get more fed up, look at the past 50 years of laws, how many of them have given people MORE personal freedom?

yeah, thought so.

eventually people will have enough and when they do as i have previously stated all of the crap built up by the people who would turn america into a police state will be flushed down the shitter like the toilet clog that it is.

when that happens people like you will be the modern version of the tories from the revolutionary war, it will be you looking for a new country to move to not us.

"united extremist insanids of darwoth" huh? a few decades ago before worthless sacks of flesh like you ruined it that country existed, only was called the united states of america.

"Oh well, such is life if ya can't laugh at em, then what would ya do, cause he will never get a clue."

if this was aimed at the thing you see in the mirror each morning it would be accurate, poarticularly the part about never getting a clue.

"P.S. Darwoth, dude gotta see the movie "XXX" the new movie out with Vendesal (Prolly spelt wrong).... Couldn't help but think of you in there, there was this group I think called "Affinity 99", there theory was launch this new experimental Bio weapon the Russian's came up with on a few city's around the world destroying the city's, so that the other governments around the world accused each other and started wars and killed each other off... Then when all governments were destroyed from the wars, Affinity 99 could come along and enjoy TRUE FREEDOM!

May wanna seek membership, I hear there lookin for head cases like ya. "[/b]

absolutely no clue whatsoever what you're talking about but this is not a new thing.

perhaps you watch to many movies and that is why you are so blind to reality?

in any case if you wish to have a rehash of the previous discussion im not going to bother as i already tore to threads every flawed "argument" (if you want to call a factless repetition of sensationalism and emotional rhetoric an arguemnt) you presented, though i invite you to come over to the gun control thread.

[Lovaelihn]

Ok... darwoth is a big extreme ( in my opinion ), but I agree with most parts. Some need some clarification, though...

Originally posted by darwoth
laws that are in direct contradiction to the constitution are illegal.



Unless it is made different by a popular vote. We also have the right to change our own constitution.
I don't think that the American public is going to race to the polls to counteract our right to bear arms, though.

And seeming as the media makes so much money off of free press, even radicals can accept the fact that free speech is too major of a right to be rebuked at this point. Censorship still remains, though...

Originally posted by darwoth
no surprise coming from a typical northeast anti american drone.

Generalizing at stereotyping won't get you anywhere in this argument.

I am from the northeast. I am pretty typical, from what I have seen of my friends.


I can't really go into the rest, as it is between darwoth and Manie.

I've made my point clear. I don't want people like Arri telling me what substances are "ok" and which are not. I don't want some religious ( or simply over-emotional ) fanatic telling me whether I can own weapon or not.

I am my own person.

Are you?

[Darwoth]

"Unless it is made different by a popular vote. We also have the right to change our own constitution.
I don't think that the American public is going to race to the polls to counteract our right to bear arms, though.

And seeming as the media makes so much money off of free press, even radicals can accept the fact that free speech is too major of a right to be rebuked at this point. Censorship still remains, though..."

there are provisions to add to the constitution, not take away from it. something cant be a right if it can be taken away.

nonetheless whether or not something CAN be changed is beside the point, there isnt and have been no attempts to formally repeal the bill of rights (because it would be the start of an armed conflict) and until there is all laws that are contradictory to them are illegal laws.


"Generalizing at stereotyping won't get you anywhere in this argument.

I am from the northeast. I am pretty typical, from what I have seen of my friends. "

in my experience people like you from the northeast are the exception, and ive known more people from up north then i care to remember.

people south of virginia and north of florida tend to be more to my line of thought, though not as outspoken.

people from states like connecticut, rhode island, massachusettes,delaware,new york, maine, maryland etc tend to be more to the brainless socialist side such as laroux.

dont see how this is debateable when all one has to do is look at various voter maps from elections of democrats vs republicans because while rebulicans arent much better then democrats people who tend to follow a constitutionalist political mindset vote for them as the lesser of two evils because the libertarian party hasnt gotten off the ground yet.




and perhaps youd care to explain how my viewpoints, which are no more then the beliefs that people should be free to make their own decisions without people like laroux making them for them and that the rights guranteed in the ... bill of rights are not negotiable is extreme?

unless of course you mean extremely logical.

or extremely american.

or extremely in line with the principles that the united states was founded on.

or extremely righteous.

[DArkfrost187]

*Yaarii's coffin starts to open very slowly*

[Arri Skywolf]

Look at the last 50 years of laws?? Yeah let's just throw out the civil rights movement/amendment. I'm sure that would make Darapist happy.

[Arri Skywolf]

Originally posted by darwoth
[b]people south of virginia and north of florida tend to be more to my line of thought,

people from states like connecticut, rhode island, massachusettes,delaware,new york, maine, maryland etc tend to be more to the brainless socialist side such as laroux.



Rofl... The South lost the war, dude. Come to terms.

[bling]

Originally posted by Arri Skywolf



Rofl... The South lost the war, dude. Come to terms.

Lol thats exacly what I said in that last 10 page long shit throwingfest.

[Darwoth]

dont know why the civil war was brought up but if youd like to discuss that segment of history i am fairly well versed in that subject to.

[bling]

you think that the south losing the war was a great travesty and that the north really has it coming for a second civil war? You said something along those lines in the last "debate"

[Damphier]

...you are better at this than me. I tend to fare well in spoken argument but as far as threads go, I can't get my shit down fast enough and I loose that train of thought...wonder if it has to do with smoking weed? *evil grin*

ANYWAY my point is, although I concede the online thread political updates and fact-throwing to you, don't hate on Maine~

People up here just don't give a shit. Sure we have a ton of "hicks" and "Mainers" up north in the state. But their oblivious lifestyle is more than that, it's peaceful ;) I live in the south of the state and I just love the people here, the weather, the atmosphere and the freedom . Isn't that what this argument is about?

P.S. Don't hate on Maine 'till you met me and some of my friends~

[Darwoth]

damphier, who started this thread?

anyway, for "hating on laroux" (ill never know him as manie lol =P) you really cant have someone with my views get along with someone with larouxs views, its not possible because people who follow laroux train of thought want to erase the freedoms that make up mine, people that think like laroux get into political office and pass ridiculous laws that throw people like me in jail for several years simply for excercising their rights set forth in the constitution. you cant "agree to disagree" when one side isnt content to just disagree and go on their way but rather think theyve the right to tell you how to live your life according to THEIR standards.

and i dont know what your political views are as youve not expressed them, but im not shitting on all of maine i know a few people from that area who are as vehement about their freedoms as i am, just saying in general people from the northern states tend to be much more invasive into peoples individual liberties and anti constitution than people in the south, for every person ive met from the states i mentioned like lovaehilin i have met 10 like laroux.

also, im not a hick. i am really just an average individual who simply has researched a bit of history and know what my rights are and get angry as hell when self righteous do gooders try to tell me i have to surrender them and live my life according to THEIR rules and regulations which happen to be in direct conflict to the charters of freedom this country was founded on.

[Arri Skywolf]

Darapist.

[Meat]

LOL Sid, that was great.

Manie that post was poorly written.

-Fish