Sad and stupid

[Bamkrak]

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/South/02/19/offbeat.freedom.fries.ap/

Oh boy, retardness.

[Mawwle]

Haha, i thought it was kinda funny a few weeks ago when the story first broke. The french are a bunch of pansies anyway.

What do you get when you cross a frenchman and an octopus?

I don't know either, but it sure throws up a lot of arms when it surrenders.


How many frenchmen does it take to defend Paris?

Nobody knows, its never been tried.


Its not surprizing the french wont help us get Saddam out of Iraq, after all they wouldnt help us get the germans out of france!!

France is an insignifacant country that has absolutly no real meaning in world politics, and they cant stand it. They want to be a forerunner in the world, but instead they are an insignifacant flea. They have absolutly nothing to offer unless you happen to like the french poodle.


Mawwle

[Tashern]

Four years ago, France and Germany begged the US to help in Kosovo behind the UN. And we did help.

Now they scream for us to use the UN against Iraq, when Saddam makes Slobidam Milosivich (heh) look like a boyscout.

When Iraq is free, and the US and its coalition is viewed as heros and liberators, the people of Iraq will remember France's hypocrisy and hopefully add on a dumbass tax on any oil contracts made with them.

[Arri Skywolf]

Any country that doesn't help militarily shouldn't have their companies able to get any contracts for the reconstruction

[Bamkrak]

People should their minds off war, it's not by killing other country that you resolve the conflics.

[yaarii]

Originally posted by Mawwle
Its not surprizing the french wont help us get Saddam out of Iraq, after all they wouldnt help us get the germans out of france!!

Guess you failed history class. And geography.

Remember the French resistance? Also keep in mind the only thing that stopped Germany from fucking steamrolling the US was the Atlantic, you weren't a superpower in 1939 and you're military was a joke.

Also, you forget that without the French, the US might still be a British colony. Remember they actually helped you become a nation.

It just gets up the US's nose that they can't get their own way all the time. "Waaah we wanna invade another sovereign state because we feel like it and they won't let us!". I mean for fucks sake, americans are coming out of this whole thing looking like the dumbest fucks on the planet. Trust me, FoxNews is putting a great spin on it (I have FoxNews direct from the states), but they forget to mention that the rest of the planet thinks you are all stupid.

Why the hell should the rest of the planet believe you are going to liberate Iraq? Remember what happened when the US "liberated" Afghanistan? Ok so now women don't have to wear burkas, and men don't have to grow beards, but thats about the only change. Their official government is weak and only being held up by the US, tribal warlords rule little fiefdoms outside the rule of law all over the country, poppy production is almost back up to pre-Taliban levels (ready for a glut of heroin, america?), everyone still carries an AK and fundamentalist Islam is still widely practiced. Wow, how liberated they are!

[Arri Skywolf]

Actually, the French that helped the colonies during the American revolution were put to death a few years later. Not the same French :p

Chirac is a gaullist :(

[Meter]

Outside of the US there is not a lot of support for the war on Iraq. Eventhough some european governments currently support the US, the vast majority of the european people dont.
Also, you cannot compare what happened in Kosovo with the current Iraq issue.

[Arkons]

yaarii that's not entire accurate. Saying the U.S.'s military was a joke in 1939 is a bit of a stretch, I mean you can't go from shitty military to fighting a 2 front war against the 2 strongest militaries in the world in 3 years.

There was a french resistance... but much of the french government welcomed the nazis, and the people certainly did.

The French did help the U.S. win its independence.

That's enough blind socialist rhetoric from you rookie ;p

[Rahne Sinclair]

I don't get involved in political talks very much, they are the mother of all flame wars, however....

Until your nation becomes the top nation in the world, until all the evil people in the world deem your country a target, until planes are flown purposely into buildings of specifically YOUR country, under some zealotic jihad.... your voice means nothing. I appreciate your opinion as a human being, but that's where it ends because you can live safely down under, getting the OCCASIONAL problem, while we have everything under the sun wanting us to die, because we're the best. (Yes I'm aware there are more underlying reasons than that, but... We're top dop, and no one likes that fact... it all boils down to that)

That's all I'll say, and I'm not getting involved in some political conversation that will do nothing but boil my blood, it's not worth it.

Originally posted by yaarii
Guess you failed history class. And geography.

Remember the French resistance? Also keep in mind the only thing that stopped Germany from fucking steamrolling the US was the Atlantic, you weren't a superpower in 1939 and you're military was a joke.

Also, you forget that without the French, the US might still be a British colony. Remember they actually helped you become a nation.

It just gets up the US's nose that they can't get their own way all the time. "Waaah we wanna invade another sovereign state because we feel like it and they won't let us!". I mean for fucks sake, americans are coming out of this whole thing looking like the dumbest fucks on the planet. Trust me, FoxNews is putting a great spin on it (I have FoxNews direct from the states), but they forget to mention that the rest of the planet thinks you are all stupid.

Why the hell should the rest of the planet believe you are going to liberate Iraq? Remember what happened when the US "liberated" Afghanistan? Ok so now women don't have to wear burkas, and men don't have to grow beards, but thats about the only change. Their official government is weak and only being held up by the US, tribal warlords rule little fiefdoms outside the rule of law all over the country, poppy production is almost back up to pre-Taliban levels (ready for a glut of heroin, america?), everyone still carries an AK and fundamentalist Islam is still widely practiced. Wow, how liberated they are!

[Mawwle]

Also, you forget that without the French, the US might still be a British colony. Remember they actually helped you become a nation.

Yes, i know this.

Trust me, FoxNews is putting a great spin on it (I have FoxNews direct from the states), but they forget to mention that the rest of the planet thinks you are all stupid.

I am not sure what your watching, but the foxnews i watch shows every single day the protests and opinions of other nations. Hell, every talk show on foxnews has done at least one show on the protesters.

Why the hell should the rest of the planet believe you are going to liberate Iraq? Remember what happened when the US "liberated" Afghanistan? Ok so now women don't have to wear burkas, and men don't have to grow beards, but thats about the only change.

First of all, this is far from the truth. We are daily pooring milions into Afghanistan. Are we through? of course not. Does Kabul look like New York City? No, and it probably never will, but i guarentee you that when we are finished and leave the people of Afghanistan will be much better off than they were before.


Look, i respect that many people dont like war, but in Many cases it is a necessary Evil. I dont like the idea of people dieing, but when these people daily announce theat they wish to seek out and kill Americans at any possible opportunity, my position changes. I know the rest of the terrorist world is probably pretty pissed at Bin Ladin for waking us up. We were sitting back allowing things to happen to some extent. Now we are pissed, you look at us cross eyed and we'er gonna kick you're ass.


Mawwle

[Darwoth]

please dont get me started on kosovo.

[Tashern]

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030130-allies01.htm

Meter, that is a nice list of our allies helping in one way or another against Iraq :)

And I didn't compare Iraq and Kosovo, I said the situation in Iraq is much worse :) Hehe would love to read your comments on Kosovo Dar.

Also, two other times when France backdoored the UN in the 50's, Congo and Vietnam.

Why the hell should the rest of the planet believe you are going to liberate Iraq? Remember what happened when the US "liberated" Afghanistan? Ok so now women don't have to wear burkas, and men don't have to grow beards, but thats about the only change. -Yaarii

I watched a nice 2 hour segment from National Geographic of Coalition Special Forces in Afganistan building schools, mosques, and homes for the people there.

I think you can look at history and safely say past countries we have helped liberate are doing much better, and results didn't occur overnight.

[Malignancy]

Yarii--

Can you send me one of your French history textbooks please? What was the French resistance? French resistance consisted of approximately one hundred british spies that lived in Paris and kept an eye on things. That was the only resistance that the French ever offered. Hell, the nazis overtook France in 3 days. Nice wall they had though. I believe the women were begging for nazi dick because their male counterparts were inadequate. What has Australia done ever btw? Oh, I forgot about Elle. Thats all we need; I retract my last question.

EC

[Exivate]

Good post Rahne, took the words right out my mouth.

[Gink]

Malignancy, your ignorance is appalling.

[Pookrt]

I go with Colin Powell and George Bush on their choice to go to war. It is stupid for all these famous people to speak out against the war and act dumb. They should realize they are celebs and they ENTERTAIN. They can't fathom what its like to run a country.

[Malignancy]

Tell me where I'm wrong Gink?

The facts are as follows:

(1) We are not a kind nation, but who really gives a fuck? We are however the only super power and we'd like to keep it that way.

(2) Sadam Hussein does not like America and I don't think anyone can possibly disagree that he WOULD give our enemies weapons that could they could use against us.

(3) We must destroy ANY country that would impede upon our economic interest.

Here is something to think about, for all of you pansy pro-peace fools:

Whether good or bad, GWB called out our enemies (Iraq, North Korea and Iran) when he had his little "Axis of Evil" about a year or so ago. Those countries took that speech very seriously and now it appears are bonding together to really form an axis to create weapons of mass destruction to counter the United States. IF we do not destroy these countries now, we may not be able to destroy them when they eventually seek to challenge the United States.

Sun Tzu once wrote (translated of course) that you should always attack your enemies when they are weakest and only a fool would attack a superior or equal force head-on. Do we really want to fight 3 countries that have weapons of mass destruction? We must do so now and I hope GWB is thinking the same thing. I only hope that North Korea and Iran don't do what I would do if we attack Iraq - Jump in on Iraq's side and kill the 35000 men we have in South Korea and attack our ships in the Gulf. Shit should prove interesting then.

EC

[Eager]

Originally posted by Malignancy
We are however the only super power and we'd like to keep it that way.

(3) We must destroy ANY country that would impede upon our economic interest.



You just routinely pull facts out of your ass and run with them. I don't even need to point out the stupidity in the above statements.

[Malignancy]

Name one fact that I have stated that is untrue.

EC

[Bamkrak]

Your number 3 is wrong and very stupid.

[Malignancy]

Think about this, geniuses:

All of our wars have been about our economic interests.

Ex/ Revolutionary war - taxation without representation

Ex/ Civil war - slavery (slave owners had a pretty good deal going and didn't want to let it go if you know what i mean)

Ex/ Vietnam/Korea - the destruction of communism, the antithesis of capitalism

Ex/ War of 1812 - land, and we want it.

Need I go on?

This war is no different. However, it is NOT about oil like the moron liberals out there complain about. Oil is a boon, but in reality, we will be going to war to protect our soil from attack by terrorists who by proxy assist our enemies in distrupting our ecomomic interests here and abroad.

EC

P.S. Please all kill yourselves now.

[Darwoth]

the civil war was not about slavery.

[Gink]

M, I was refering to your comments about the French resistance, and Australia.

[Mawwle]

the civil war was not about slavery.

The civil war was not ONLY about slavery, but slavery did play a fairly large roll in it. Not so much the fact that slavery was wrong (which it was and is) but more that the federal gocvernment was not suppossed to pass such a law, but instead it was supposed to be up to the individual states.

But, states have no rights any more, a sad truth.


Mawwle

[Malignancy]

Gink-

Please tell me what I said about the French resistance & Australians is untrue? The Australians have done NOTHING for the world and never will. They are just the offspring of useless criminals. On the other hand, the French have been spreading their legs for dictators since the year of the flood. They even name airports after the biggest leg-spreaders.

EC

P.S. Darwoth - you disagree that the civil war was about the south's economy?

[Darwoth]

no i fully agree it was about the economy, just that it was about much much more than slavery, at least for the southern states.

in the grand scheme of the civil war savery was a rather small issue, one that lincoln used to gain support for his war.

[Meter]

Its funny how well propaganda works (on all sides).

Something else, why do you (the reader) participate in discussions like these? I am curious.

[yaarii]

Originally posted by Meter
Something else, why do you (the reader) participate in discussions like these? I am curious.

Got nothing better to do? Thats my usual reason.

[Eager]

Originally posted by Meter
Its funny how well propaganda works (on all sides).

Something else, why do you (the reader) participate in discussions like these? I am curious.

Most of it is while I'm downloading music/movies and the like. I join once in awhile to spark some more discussion and maybe learn something in the process.

[DArkfrost187]

That damn Lady Elaine Fairchild scares me more than Saddam anyday :eek:

;) Eager

[Thraxll]

Yeah I agree Yaarii. I'm so surprised at how many idiots are in my country. I was in a debate the other day. I brought up the American Revolution. The girl didn't even know about the French helping us!

I get tired sometimes of being in this country at times. I am seriously considering moving in with my Grandparents over in Germany and becoming a German citizen.

I love America don't get me wrong, but my god. There are just too many "sheeple" that live here.

I can always transfer my job from here to the American Embassy.

[Malignancy]

So get the fuck out. One less worthless mouth to feed! Germany is a nice place, particularly if you like blond women. Mmmmmm

EC

P.S. Check out Hamburg. The red light there makes amsterdam look like kindergarten

[Thraxll]

Know what Im most worried about? China. They're kinda staying in the backround. I beleive they're doing this on purpose.

They teach their Military Officers things like, make the beast of the west think that Communisim is dead. Then while the beast has his back turned you strike with full force.

If you play some "real" wargames sometime. It is viable for China in several situations to conquer and control areas around them faster than Japan did in WW2. Nukes wouldn't be an option because they have them too. I wouldn't be surprised if North Korea really had them as well, they're just making it out to be a show that they're working on them.

As mentioned above about the teaching of military communisim. Perhaps the old USSR isn't really dead. I recall once an interview after the fall of commusnism in Russia with a top ranking General. He was asked something along the lines of how the military is going to work out with Russia being broken up in so many parts now. (the countrys/countys etc) He said, "Oh no we are still one, same military same people".

I also wouldn't be surprised if Russia went back to communisim. Christ look at what state their people are in. Before when they had communisim poverty was low, people worked, people were fed food. ACtually if I remember right Vladimir Putin supposedly stopped a Coup maybe last year? Then again who really knows. Afterall he is an ex-KGB officer of the old USSR.

Here is a possible and very real scenerio. We send about 60 percent of our forces to Iraq. In about the middle of the conflict All of the sudden the 37th parrel is crossed from the North. With support from China. South Korea is taken over. Then Taiwan. Japan is bloackaded. You have troops pouring out of Vietnam, Korea etc. Austraila is under siege and Paratroops are coming down over the major citys killing all civilians. Why? Oh because of the gun laws there. What are they gonna fight back with? Kitchen Knives? lol. Russia then suddenly and almost instantly as if it were planned all along reverts back to communisim and allies with China. Now you have 2 of the biggest countrys with the largest militarys in the world to contend with. They use the GLA, PLO, Hez Bul La, etc etc as pawns to get the great Satan and allies. You are now starting to have the largest conventional war in the world. Ala World War 3. (no one will have the balls to use nukes, maybe some gas here and there but if you read up on the viability of it from militarys around the world on someone crazy would do it. Ala your Terrorist factions) Eventually You have the largest tank battle in history in Western Europe. America and Allies (NATO) still have a very large tank build up in Europe from the cold war. Why are they still there you might ask? Of what Im speaking above of course. The Air War will probably be at a stand still, because of EMP weapons on all sides. (not futuristic exists) You will see alot of high-tech coming out. Holographics projections to fool targeting systems. Projection Cloaking devices. (which all exist...let me elaborate on the cloak. Basically say you put cameras behind a tank, it can project what is behind the tank infront of it. Basically rendering it somewhat invisible to the naked eye. You can look this up in Janes or other similar journals.) The Stalemate will most likley be in Western Europe...Mid Africa..and Mexico. (Dont forget Chile are very VERY good friends with China. Kinda like Cuba was with Russia back in the day) The outcome is unknown but when this scenario was done in many different ways the outcome everytime was under 50 percent in our favor. (being America, Canada, England, other allies etc.)

The only way to prevent that is well to prevent it from happening in the first place of course. However you've got idiots like George Bush that dont listen to people that know about things like this than himself or his immediate staff. Then again there is also the chance that it won't happen at all even if he goes through with it.

[Thraxll]

Oh hehe I've been there many times Mal. :) My Grandparents, Half-Sister and cousins etc. All live in Munich, and in the Hamburg area.


Blonde women? OOOOo Deine blauen augen! :D (those blue eyes!) Blumchen the singer! *drool* hehehe. Just the people in gereral there are real nice people. My girl friend majored in Socialology. According to her the places like Norway, Denmark, Sweden, German. etc have people that are just truely nice folks. Care about one another, and are just generally the best places to live. Of course there are always bad eggs everywhere, but the majority is great. Its weird, Ive felt more welcome in Germany when visiting by people Ive never met before as opposed to America. (Not bashing America here just saying)

I like Amsterdam. Never really been to the red light district though.

[Thraxll]

Speaking of conflicts....god I hate Jews.

http://www.stop-us-military-aid-to-israel.net/photo_index1.html

der Sieg an allen Kosten!

[Arri Skywolf]

Yeah the French helped the colonists in the revolution.

America helped France in World Wars 1 and 2. Why don't you mention that to the French when they start spouting their anti-American rhetoric?

Why don't you mention the Marshall Plan?

Why don't you mention how even though we've helped them multiple times, they've constantly thumb their noses at us throughout history and stepped on everyone with their snotty attitudes?

French fries shouldn't be renamed Freedom Fries.

They should be named 'Arrogant Egotistical Bastard' fries.

[Mawwle]

Speaking of conflicts....god I hate Jews.

Yea, nevermind all the pictures of the dead people from the homicide bombers.

Don't even get me started on the Israel Palestine conflict. Only one side has been willing to make peace many times in the past, and it isnt Palestine.

Mawwle

[Tdayyen]

Yea, nevermind all the pictures of the dead people from the army tanks and helicopters

[yaarii]

Originally posted by Thraxll
Know what Im most worried about? China. They're kinda staying in the backround. I beleive they're doing this on purpose.

They teach their Military Officers things like, make the beast of the west think that Communisim is dead. Then while the beast has his back turned you strike with full force.

If you play some "real" wargames sometime. It is viable for China in several situations to conquer and control areas around them faster than Japan did in WW2. Nukes wouldn't be an option because they have them too. I wouldn't be surprised if North Korea really had them as well, they're just making it out to be a show that they're working on them.

As mentioned above about the teaching of military communisim. Perhaps the old USSR isn't really dead. I recall once an interview after the fall of commusnism in Russia with a top ranking General. He was asked something along the lines of how the military is going to work out with Russia being broken up in so many parts now. (the countrys/countys etc) He said, "Oh no we are still one, same military same people".


I also wouldn't be surprised if Russia went back to communisim. Christ look at what state their people are in. Before when they had communisim poverty was low, people worked, people were fed food. ACtually if I remember right Vladimir Putin supposedly stopped a Coup maybe last year? Then again who really knows. Afterall he is an ex-KGB officer of the old USSR.

Only a few problems here -

1) China doesn't have much of a foreign policy when it comes to invading things and having a sphere of influence. They are NOT like the old USSR (who were very expansionist). China would only invade Taiwan if given the chance, not the world.

2) Russia, as one of the 15 republics of the USSR, still lives with the ghosts of authoritarian socialism. Their official communist party, who are hardline communists, get around 30% of the vote in elections. There are still people in positions of power who believe in communism and that socialism will come back. Whether it will is anyones guess, they will probably win an election when there is a major economic depression (something the USSR didn't really have).


Austraila is under siege and Paratroops are coming down over the major citys killing all civilians. Why? Oh because of the gun laws there. What are they gonna fight back with? Kitchen Knives? lol

People can still have guns here. My dad owns about 8, and not just .22's or anything, he owns a 1911A1 pistol, pump action 20 guage shotgun, .338 winchester magnum bolt action rifle amongst other things. All completely legal.

The guns that were banned in 1996 (the most often cited case of banning guns by US gun nuts) were centrefire and rimfire semi-automatic rifles, as well as some pump action shotguns. You can get around the pump shotgun laws by being a member of a pistol club that allows you to use a shotgun there.

Oh and Mawwle, more Palestinian civilians have died than Israeli civilians during the second Intefada (the one that has been going since Ariel Sharon visited a religious site important to both Jews and Muslims). I'm pretty sure Palestinian civilians are dying 3 times more than Israeli civilians.

[Mawwle]

Oh and Mawwle, more Palestinian civilians have died than Israeli civilians during the second Intefada (the one that has been going since Ariel Sharon visited a religious site important to both Jews and Muslims). I'm pretty sure Palestinian civilians are dying 3 times more than Israeli civilians.


Yes, probably so. Everytime a homicide bomber kills innocents, the Israeli army gives it back to them 10 fold.

Time and time again we will go for many weeks, even months without any violence, then a homocide bomber will do his thing and israel retaliates.

Ever single long era of peace (if you can call a few months "long") has been broken by terrorist from palestine, not Israel. Every single Israeli offensive is in responce to something some terrorists did to kill Israeli's, and usually innocent civilians.

You dont see Israeli's going around homicide bombing busses with nothing but old people and children on it.

Now granted, they seem to not have too great a concern about "collateral damage" but i had never known them to intentionally target a childrens hospital. The oppisite cannot be said for the scumbag ragheads.

Israel retaliates, and harshly, to terrorism. Israel has agreed to have peace many times over, Palestine will not agree to peace, or agree's and then sned in some homocide bombers anyway.

Go look at the history of attacks from the two sides, in practically EVERY case you will find an Israeli offensive to be a retaliation, but you will find many many attacks from palestine to be unprovoked.

Mawwle

[yaarii]

Yeah the Palestinians usually fire the first shots, or throw the first few rocks, after an Israeli does something incredibly stupid. This is how the second Intefada started - Ariel Sharon knew very well that the Palestinians would be pissed off if he visited the holy site - BUT HE DID IT ANYWAY.

Don't forget, Israel isn't being occupied by a foreign country, Palestine is.

If mexico conquered and occupied your town, called you all illegal occupants and started setting up mexican settlements on your land without your permission, then executed people without trials on the basis they might be against mexico, not giving a shit about collateral damage at the same time, would you fight back? What about putting up roadblocks to prevent you even going to work? The list goes on. We both know you would fight against this, so don't even pretend you wouldn't.

[Mawwle]

Don't forget, Israel isn't being occupied by a foreign country, Palestine is.

Oh? can you show me where the nation of Palestine is on a map? where it used to be?

Oh wait, you can't, because there isn't and never has been a nation of palestine.


Mawwle

[Mawwle]

YOu have two groups of people that claim this is their homeland. Fact is, the Israeli's are willing to make peace and split the territorry, the Palestiniens are not.

They both have valid claims to the land dating back to WAYYY before you and i were even born. One wants to stop the violence and make peace, the other does not.


Mawwle

[yaarii]

I didn't say there was a nation of Palestine. I said that they were being occupied by a foreign country. The fact that the land used to belong to Jordan is irrelevant.

I'm saying there should be a nation of Palestine, just like there is a nation of Israel. I mean, if it wasn't for the brits, Israel wouldn't even exist, no matter how much the Jews claimed it was their land.

As for the Israelis willing to make peace, stop being a mouthpiece for the right wing media. The peace process was on track until the ISRAELI'S fucked it up and caused the second Intefada. Notice how Ariel Sharon won't support peace with Palestine? How do you get that they are being peaceful out of that?

And this time don't ignore this, I want an answer -

"If mexico conquered and occupied your town, called you all illegal occupants and started setting up mexican settlements on your land without your permission, then executed people without trials on the basis they might be against mexico, not giving a shit about collateral damage at the same time, would you fight back? What about putting up roadblocks to prevent you even going to work, or demolishing your house because a relative who you barely knew decided to become a martyr?"

Well? What would you do Mawwle?

[Mawwle]

Your not asking the question right. The question would be "if mexico conquered Canada. ( like you said the land palestine claims belonged to them is 90% in jordan now, yet they only bitch about the 10% that is in Israel).

And in fact, that would not even be an appropriate question. It would be more like "If a country that you wanted to have but never existed was occupied by mexico "

You make it sound as if Palestine was a peacful nation sitting there farming crops and making happy faces at everyone and the mean ole jews came in and killed everyone and took over the area, (kinda like we did to the native american a few hundred years ago).

TO answer your question, of course i would fight, the problem is the question does not fit this situation, and you know it.

If 90% of the territory they claim is theirs belongs to jordan, why arent there suicide bombings in jordan? why arent they demanding jordan leave "their land?"

I'll answer that

Its because the muslims are the most hateful and intolerant major religon on the earth. No other major religon i know of preaches to kill people who do not believe the way you believe. They attack the israeli's because hatefulness is indoctrinated into them in their schools and homes while they are children. They attack the Israeli's because they are jews.

Mawwle

[Darwoth]

http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/images/reuterpic2.jpg





http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid54/p7e1b8ee5b6096d186724877d70c95fcc/fc84ae31.jpg

[Vallidus]

ROFL

Darwoth you need to add some captiosn tho

Pic #1: Ascending Dawn in a normal pvp mode(could add names over kid and other rebels)

word bubble"Die pimply face nerdhumpers!!"

Pic 2# Ascending Dawn in pvp mode when not with 37 of their guildmates

word bubble "So guys, what can you tell me about Healers in Sb?"

[Thraxll]

Since the year 2000. 400 Jew Civilians have died. Over 2k Palestinian civilians have died.

I would become a suicide bomber too if the jews came over killed my family then bull dozed my house. What else would I have left to lose? The Jews are very very evil people. Especially the "Occult Jews". I won't get into that one, but if you read up on it. Holy shit these people are whacked out of their mind. Its almost Satanic.

Saying Muslims are the most violent people in the world. Thats a sterotype. If you actually read what Islam is all about...you can almost compare it to Ghandi in a way. Then you might ask then why are they acting so violent etc? Well Jesus all these people have ever known is conflict for hundreds of years. I bet you'd also be kinda pissy if you had to live out in a desert too.

Jordan may control 90% of their land, but what they are most concernd about is the Holy site.

The jews dont use suicide bombers cuz pfft. The USA illegally gives them money to support their military. Why use suicide bombers if you can have tanks? Palestine doesnt have ONE military vehicle. So in order to strike back the most distructive would be a suicide bomber.

They dont target childrens hospitals? Well fuck they would if the media wouldn't get them in trouble. Look at the pictures. They've killed babies, unborns, ambulance medics, and a slew of women and children. There is one picture to note Palestinian school girls running for their lives from Jew Troops. If the Jews are trying to be so peacful and whatnot. Why are little girls running for their lives?

If the Jews want peace so fucking bad why dont they just let the Palestian people that want peace too to just move into the Jew controlled area and be peaceful? Oh because the Jews dont want it that way. They would rather slaughter them all.

Also read up some of the real news. 95% of the media is controled by the Jews. Same goes for banks around the world too.

As evil as they may sound, sometimes I wish WW2 lasted just another month, the final solution would have probably been complete for the most part.

[Thraxll]

Israel Is Illegally Occupying Palestine
Under UN Resolution 242, Israel is required by international law to withdraw from all the territories occupied in 1967, including East Jerusalem. The United Nation's General Assembly has repeatedly condemned Israel's occupation of the territories as illegal (see UN resolutions 338, 1397, and 1402, among others). Israel's continued occupation of Palestine, sanctioned and maintained by the US, is one of the most serious obstructions to a just and lasting peace in the Middle East.


Israel Systematically Violates the Human Rights of Palestinians in the Occupied Territories
Each day, Israeli security forces in the West Bank and Gaza violate articles of the 4th Geneva Convention on Human Rights, an agreement that governs wartime rules of engagement and to which Israel is a signatory. Palestinian homes and agriculture fields are routinely demolished to make way for illegal Israeli settlements. Israeli soldiers regularly arrest and detain--often for years-- Palestinians without due process. According to Amnesty International, members of the Israeli security forces regularly use torture and prolonged incommunicado detention against Palestinians


Israel is an Apartheid State
Israel has developed an elaborate system of racial discrimination, embedded in its legal system, rivaling Apartheid South Africa's laws. These laws include the Law of Entry, the Law of Return, the Citizenship Law, the Military Service Law, and a host of legally sanctioned, discriminatory rabbinical rulings. Palestinians are denied various welfare benefits, access to many jobs, and the leasing of homes and land controlled by government bodies. Electricity, sewerage, and roads are provided free to Israeli households, whereas many Palestinian communities in Israel, and especially in the Occupied Territories, have existed for decades without adequate services. Laws governing land ownership such as the Law of Acquisition of Absentee Property and the Law for Acquisition of Land blatantly discriminate against Palestinians. Indeed, land ownership in Palestine is more unjust than it ever wasin South Africa; at the height of apartheid, black people nominally `controlled' 13 percent of the land, whereas in Israel the Palestinians control only 2 percent of the land.Blockades which allow settlers free movement but restrict Palestinians have lost 100,000 workers their jobs. The Israeli government issues identification cards and car number-plates, color coded, which restrict travel for non-Jews. Palestinians in the West Bank are routinely prevented from travelling to the Gaza Strip because they have to travel through `Israeli' territory. No significant industry has been permitted to develop in the West Bank or Gaza. Consequently, Palestinians are concentrated in the lowest paying jobs and form a super-exploited labour force for Israeli capital. The occupied territories import 93% of goods but export a mere 7% of what they produce. Palestinian exports to Western Europe are banned so as not to compete with Israeli exports. Ninety percent of Palestinian workers must travel to Jewish towns for employment.


The US Arms Export Control Act (AECA) strictly forbids the government from giving military assistance to any country that violates internationally recognized human rights. The State Department's 2001 human rights report states: "Israeli security units often used excessive force against Palestinian demonstrators including live fire ... impeded the provision of medical assistance to Palestinian civilians by their strict enforcement of internal closures, which reportedly contributed to at least 32 deaths. Israeli security forces harassed and abused Palestinian pedestrians and drivers who were attempting to pass through the more than 130 Israeli- controlled checkpoints ..." Under the AECA, "the President is required to report to Congress promptly upon the receipt of information that a substantial violation of AECA may have occurred." The US government is fully aware of the Israeli army's human rights violations, as the above quote from the State Department shows. The US government has eroded its own credibility as an impartial mediator by continuing to arm Israel without restriction and allowing these weapons to be used against civilian populations in violation of US law.




US funding of Israel's human rights abuses fuels resentment towards the US. While the rest of the world strongly condemns Israel’s occupation of the Palestinian Territories, our government provides the political, diplomatic and material means for the occupation to continue. Such actions by the US government provoke anti-US sentiment throughout the world, ultimately jeopardizing the safety of people living in the US. The US can build its own security only by gaining the trust and respect of the international community.






Fact The occupation is killing children and innocent civilians

Israelis possess overwhelming military superiority over the Palestinians. Israeli soldiers are shooting individuals with missiles, using American made F-16s and Apache helicopters. Tanks roll into refugee camps, supposedly to root out terrorists. But so many of these so-called terrorists are young children.
According to B'Tselem, the Israeli Center for Human Rights in the occupied Palestinian Territories, 1059 of the Palestinians killed from September 29, 2000 though July 20, 2002 have been civilians. In comparison, 360 Israeli civilians were killed during this period, in Israel and the Occupied Territories combined (see box below). There were also over 108 extra-judicial assassinations of Palestinians during this period -- a war crime according to the Hague Convention of 1907.



Fact Israeli Settlements Are Illegal and Provocative

One of Israel's most egregious violations of the 4th Geneva Convention is the construction of massive settlements in East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza. The terms of the Convention couldn't be clearer: "The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies." The Israeli government is essentially colonizing the Occupied Territories.

More than 350,000 settlers have built approximately 150 illegal settlements on confiscated Palestinian land. And the number is growing. Since 2001 forty-four new settlements have been established, according to an aerial survey by Peace Now. Jewish-only bypass roads that connect settlements to each other and to Israel have carved up Palestine into disconnected Palestinian islands, making establishment of a viable Palestinian state impossible. The army and settlers also confiscate scarce natural resources from the region. Israeli Jewish settlers are allocated 4.5 times more water, per capita, for agricultural and personal use than the occupied Palestinians themselves.




Fact The Israeli government demolishes homes, uproots crops, and confiscates land.
Since October 2000, 580 homes were demolished or blown up. 291 acres of land were confiscated. 34,606 olive & fruit trees were uprooted. In East Jerusalem, Palestinian homes are demolished and land confiscated in order to ensure Jews have a majority in the city (the “Silent Transfer”). According to Amnesty International, Israel" frequently uses demolitions of homes as a form of collective punishment."



Fact Palestinians suffer a severe water shortage due to the Occupation
The Israeli government pursues a grossly discriminatory water policy. Since 1967, the Israeli government has been stealing up to 80% of the gro undwater from the"Mountain Reservoir," a group of groundwater aquifers located underneath the mountains of the Occupied West Bank of Palestine, lincluding the Occupied Jerusalem. The Palestinian people are allowed no control of these extensive water resources.


Fact US Aid to Israel Harms Israelis

For every dollar the US sends to the Israeli military, Israeli taxpayers end up spending two to three extra dollars supporting their military. By strengthening the Israeli military establishment, US aid to Israel makes it even harder for progressive Israelis to create a civil society committed to a just peace in the region. Israel has one of the most powerful militaries in the world, with a large portion of the country's budget allocated for the military. The country's massive military expenditures, promoted in part by the US, mean that less money is spent on social programs. The increasing US aid to Israel only serves to cement Israeli dependence on the US and turns the country into a militarized "client state."


Fact Over 1,000 Israelis have refused military service due to the Occupation.

"We will no longer fight beyond the Green Line for the purpose of occupying, deporting, destroying, blockading, killing, starving and humiliating an entire people," declares a petition signed by the reservists.


Fact YOU fund the Occupation.

Israel, whose population is 0.1% of the total world population, gets roughly one-third of all US foreign aid. Annually this amounts to more than $3 billion in US taxpayer dollars going to Israel. $2.04 billion of that is military aid.

Fact Peace is possible.

It is a myth that Palestinians need to be subjugated to keep Jews safe. The occupation is only worsening the position of Jews in the Middle East. True safety only comes with justice and equality. History teaches us that when people come together around a common vision for peace, they can change even the most oppressive conditions.

[Mawwle]

Saying Muslims are the most violent people in the world. Thats a sterotype. If you actually read what Islam is all about...you can almost compare it to Ghandi in a way.

Ok, so i did some reading, here are a few excerpts from the peace loving religon of islam book the Quran


9:29: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Books (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Q 2:190-3


When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them.

Q 9:5

Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate.





Yea, it all sounds so Ghandi like

<sarcasm off>

Mawwle

[Tdayyen]

mawwle u cant steriotype a whole religion like that...there are some extremists.... other religions are just as bad...for example.. white christian KKK and shitloads of other dumb shit..

[yaarii]

Mawwle, thats a bullshit argument. Ever read the christian bible? Here let me help you out -

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty.html

If 90% of the territory they claim is theirs belongs to jordan, why arent there suicide bombings in jordan? why arent they demanding jordan leave "their land?"

I'll answer that

Its because the muslims are the most hateful and intolerant major religon on the earth. No other major religon i know of preaches to kill people who do not believe the way you believe. They attack the israeli's because hatefulness is indoctrinated into them in their schools and homes while they are children. They attack the Israeli's because they are jews.

You are one gullible motherfucker. You can't even get the grammar right. The muslims aren't a religion, ISLAM is a religion, muslims are the followers of it.

And they attack the Israeli's because they are on THEIR LAND you stupid fuck. You completely ignore the way the Israeli's treat the Palestinians. You don't give a fuck about the child who was working his plot of land only to be shot by the machine gun of a tank. What was the reason? Israel gave no reason, they just shot him. If that was YOUR son, would you be pissed when a Mexican tank rolled down the street and just shot your child for no fucking reason?

AND most attacks are on Israeli settlements, which are little villages DELIBERATELY PLACED on Palestinian land, with no remuneration for the Palestinians who lived there previously. If Mexico came and demolished YOUR house, and took your land, would YOU fight back?

Like you said, even you would fight back, yet you still complain about the Palestinians, as if they are untermenschen.

You've just eaten up conservative propadanda Mawwle. Sorry, you ARE the useless american poon that makes the whole world hate the US.

There are over a billion muslims, why are there so few suicide bombers? Why do 99.9999% of them live normal lives in Islamic countries without going out to kill the west? Please tell me because you seem to be giving me the impression that they all want to kill me because I'm white. I live next to a country that has 180,000,000 muslims, why aren't they invading and slaughtering me? It says so in the Qu'ran, so why are they doing the opposite?

[Chauliodus]

Sheesh, what happened to a sovereign nations right to conquest?

[yaarii]

Mawwle, it seems your religious nuts aren't any better than the Islamic "heathens" they hate -

Pat Buchanan arguing FOR torture - http://www.townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/pb20030310.shtml

How wonderful, now both sides have extremist dipshits preparing to fuck over the entire planet because of their ridiculously illogical, non-existant gods.

[Chauliodus]

I hardly see how a little war would "fuck over" the planet.

[Mawwle]

Hey, all i did was quote the quran. I didnt make that shit up. It is the quran that is preaching that you should kill anyone who doesnt believe in islam.

And they attack the Israeli's because they are on THEIR LAND you stupid fuck

Like i said before, of all the territory that palestine calims to be "theirs", 90% of that territory is in jordan, and 10% is in Israel.

How long have the jews inhabited Israel? anybody know?


Mawwle

[Mawwle]

Pat Buchanan arguing FOR torture - http://www.townhall.com/columnists/...b20030310.shtml

I didnt actually read this because i am packing up and loading the moving truck, but i dont know pat buchanon can be "out there" sometimes. However, i personally dont have any problem with torturing the fuck out of some scumbag who has killed hundreds or thousands of innocent people.. I say bring him to the brink of death, then revive him, eternally. Scumbags suck.

Mawwle

[Chauliodus]

Noone complained when the Palastinians ancestors invaded and took that area from the Byzantines.

[bling]

pat buchanan sucks

[yaarii]

Originally posted by Mawwle
Hey, all i did was quote the quran. I didnt make that shit up. It is the quran that is preaching that you should kill anyone who doesnt believe in islam.

Which is exactly the same as the christian bible. I don't see you criticising Dubya for his christian leanings? Or almost all of the Republican party itself? Or all those little right-wing extremists like Pat Buchanan and Jerry Falwell?


Like i said before, of all the territory that palestine calims to be "theirs", 90% of that territory is in jordan, and 10% is in Israel.

The Jordanians kicked the Palestinians out in the 70's (IIRC! Someone correct me if I'm wrong), which is why they are all in the west bank (which Jordan lost in one of their wars with Israel). The palestinians live IN the west bank, which is why they want it, they would have to invade Jordan to get their land back from them.


How long have the jews inhabited Israel? anybody know?

Jews have always lived in Palestine, although they were always a minority (like 3 jews for every 7 arabs or so) until after ww2 when the british gave them their own country (the land used to belong to Egypt IIRC?).

After ww2 and the creation of Israel as a nation, it experienced massive immigration mainly from post-war Europe. More recently it experienced another large amount of immigration from the former Soviet Union after Gorbachev lifted travel restrictions on Soviet citizens in the late 80's. This further continued well after the fall of the Soviet Union due to the economic fuckups and the sheer poverty in post-socialist Russia.

So basically, they have always been there in small numbers, but only recently (~50 years) have they become the largest population in Palestine. Historically arabs have been the largest population there.

Also, you have failed to explain why Indonesia, the largest Muslim nation on the planet hasn't invaded Australia yet (we are mainly christian, despite them outnumbering us 10:1. You said the Qu'ran commands them to kill the infidels, so why aren't they doing it?

[yaarii]

It's also worth mentioning that the Jews and Arabs got along FAR better before Israel was created. There still was the occasional spate of violence, and there were still extremist muslims and jews on both sides, only they had no real power over the populations as the populations were relatively satisfied (ie there was no reason to support a particular cause if you are content).

This all changed when Israel was created smack bang right in the middle of the middle east, espousing a pro-Jew policy and generally acting very aggressive and paranoid. This destabilised the region and caused 3 Arab-Israeli wars, and inspired people to support fundamentalist movements such as the Al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade, Hezbollah, HAMAS, as well as Israeli's support of aggressive measures by their military against perceived threats.

Hence the whole region is fucked now.

[Chauliodus]

Accually, open violence between Jews and Arabs in Palastine began during the late 20's when some Palastinians butchered a synagogue.

[Mawwle]

Which is exactly the same as the christian bible. I don't see you criticising Dubya for his christian leanings? Or almost all of the Republican party itself? Or all those little right-wing extremists like Pat Buchanan and Jerry Falwell

We must be reading different bibles then. I dont recall anywhere in the bible where it says you should seek out and kill anyone who is not a christian.

The bible i have read states that everyone is free to make his own choice, and will be judged by god.

So if you would be so kinds as to point to the scripture that states christians should seek out and kill any and all non-christains, i would really like to see it, and also know what bible it came from.


My primary argument here is that the "holy book" of the so called peace loving religon of Islam very clearly states that followers should KILL non believers.....seek them out and destroy them, ly in wait and ambush them......

Islam is the only religon i know of that preaches this.

Mawwle

[Mawwle]

After ww2 and the creation of Israel as a nation, it experienced massive immigration mainly from post-war Europe.

Ok, i really do not know much about this, but i know Israel is mentioned in the bible many times over. And since the bible is oh about 2000 years old, i would think that Israel was created a weency bit before ww2.


The Jordanians kicked the Palestinians out in the 70's (IIRC! Someone correct me if I'm wrong), which is why they are all in the west bank (which Jordan lost in one of their wars with Israel). The palestinians live IN the west bank, which is why they want it, they would have to invade Jordan to get their land back from them.

And this is the point i was trying to make. Ok, so lets say Mexico some how took over texas, and then canada took over the rest of the US except for Mississippi. So all americans were pushed into Mississippi. Now, do youthink it makes since to be really pissed at mexico and suicide bomb them ect ect, or would it make a bit more since to go after canada first since MOST of the occupied territory is occupied by canada.

I am just saying that the reason behind the attacks has a whole lot more to do with the fact that Palestine hates jews that the fact that jews are occupying their territorry(at least they see it that way) The jews see it as if palestine is occupying the jews territory. And considering that there has never been a nation of palestine, you wont find it on any map, present or past, i tend to side with the jews. Couple that with the fact that the violence is always started by palestine, i still side with the jews.

I do think that at times they go a bit overboard, but hell, after how many years of this shit? i would probably start getting tired of it too and care less and less about collateral damage.

Personally i think the US should stop holding Israel back and the next time a homocide bomber takes out some school kids, Israel should just go seriously fuck them up. And dont give me this shit about "its just a few radicals" BS i see the videos of people dnacing in the streets every time Jews or americans die. These people may not all be active in bombings, but they sure as hell dont try to stop it.

When it comes to terrorism, you're either for it or against it, and if you look the other way while it happens, you're not against it. If your own people are comitting it and you dont try to stop it, you're not against it.

The fact is, every single attack from Israel is in responce to a bombing or some other offensive from palestine that killed some innocents.

Mawwle

[yaarii]

Originally posted by Mawwle
We must be reading different bibles then. I dont recall anywhere in the bible where it says you should seek out and kill anyone who is not a christian.

The bible i have read states that everyone is free to make his own choice, and will be judged by god.

So if you would be so kinds as to point to the scripture that states christians should seek out and kill any and all non-christains, i would really like to see it, and also know what bible it came from.


My primary argument here is that the "holy book" of the so called peace loving religon of Islam very clearly states that followers should KILL non believers.....seek them out and destroy them, ly in wait and ambush them......

Islam is the only religon i know of that preaches this.

And hardly anybody actually believes it. Thats why there are over a billion muslims who live normal, peaceful lives.

Also, my point about christianity was that it is just violent and infair as the Qu'ran. Read my URL again -

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty.html

And you still haven't explained why 180,000,000 muslims aren't invading Australia, why are you dodging this question? Could it be that for all the quotes you are giving, nobody actually puts them into practice? Yes I think so....ie your points are proven irrelevant.

[yaarii]

Originally posted by Mawwle
Ok, i really do not know much about this, but i know Israel is mentioned in the bible many times over. And since the bible is oh about 2000 years old, i would think that Israel was created a weency bit before ww2.


Israel wasn't a nation. It was just a bit of land name Israel, which happens to be exactly the same bit of land that others have named Palestine. The people who lived on that land who followed Judaism were called Israelites.

Israel was only ever an actual nation, with an actual government and society after ww2.


And this is the point i was trying to make. Ok, so lets say Mexico some how took over texas, and then canada took over the rest of the US except for Mississippi. So all americans were pushed into Mississippi. Now, do youthink it makes since to be really pissed at mexico and suicide bomb them ect ect, or would it make a bit more since to go after canada first since MOST of the occupied territory is occupied by canada.

I am just saying that the reason behind the attacks has a whole lot more to do with the fact that Palestine hates jews that the fact that jews are occupying their territorry(at least they see it that way) The jews see it as if palestine is occupying the jews territory. And considering that there has never been a nation of palestine, you wont find it on any map, present or past, i tend to side with the jews. Couple that with the fact that the violence is always started by palestine, i still side with the jews.

I do think that at times they go a bit overboard, but hell, after how many years of this shit? i would probably start getting tired of it too and care less and less about collateral damage.

Personally i think the US should stop holding Israel back and the next time a homocide bomber takes out some school kids, Israel should just go seriously fuck them up. And dont give me this shit about "its just a few radicals" BS i see the videos of people dnacing in the streets every time Jews or americans die. These people may not all be active in bombings, but they sure as hell dont try to stop it.

When it comes to terrorism, you're either for it or against it, and if you look the other way while it happens, you're not against it. If your own people are comitting it and you dont try to stop it, you're not against it.

The fact is, every single attack from Israel is in responce to a bombing or some other offensive from palestine that killed some innocents.

Or how about Israel leaves the West Bank and the Gaza strip, where they are NOT ALLOWED TO BE BY INTERNATIONAL LAW, the same international laws that the US is saying Iraq is in breach of, and therefore deserves to be invaded. When is the invasion of Israel going to happen Mawwle? They are breaking UN resolutions, and have done so for years, what are we going to do about this rogue state?

I am getting less and less sympathetic for Israelis, especially ones that choose to live IN the west bank on what was Palestinian owned land and not expect to get shot dead by an angry person.

If someone tried to take your land that you OWNED, would you fight back Mawwle? Of course you would. What if they came with tanks and APC's first? Well I'm guessing you would leave, then come back later to exact revenge after the tanks and apc's roll back out.

Imo it was a mistake to let Israel as a nation to be formed THERE. Hell if they wanted to live in the middle of the desert, we could have given them some peice of shit land the size of Israel that barely had 2-3 houses on it from the outback. They wouldn't have a border with anyone angry, because 99% of australians live in the green/forested parts of australia, nowhere near the deserts. There they would have been free to wander about thinking they are "god's chosen people" all the time and not piss off a single soul.

[Chauliodus]

Fuck international law.

[Mawwle]

Fuck international law.

I agree.

The Un is either dead, or is going to go under a major overhaul.

They are breaking UN resolutions, and have done so for years, what are we going to do about this rogue state?

You must have missed Bushes speech the other day. The president you loved so much (clinton) did nothing to help, but the president you hate (BUsh) is doing everything iwhtin his power to create an actual nation of palestine and make peace once and for all in the mideast.

But i am sure that once a nation of palestine is created, some dumb rag-head will fuck it all up again by killing some kids or old people in a homocide bombing mission.


And hardly anybody actually believes it. Thats why there are over a billion muslims who live normal, peaceful lives.

Ok, i am not sure what you meant here. Nobody believes the quran? or nobody believes the bible? Because if you say nobody believes the quran, i find it kinda funny how this is the center of the religon, yet most muslims feel its a lie?


Also, my point about christianity was that it is just violent and infair as the Qu'ran. Read my URL again -

That website is a joke, trying to say that offering up some animals for sacrafice is the same is straping a bomb to ones chest and killing innocent strangers is laughable at best. And besides that, any violence you will see is the bible (such as the cleansing of the earth with the flood and such) is in the old testament when god was supposedly a god of wrath. Again i am by no means a scholar, but what i can remember from my youthfull days in bible school classes, he at somepoint changed and in the entire new testament all the animal sacrafices and killlings stopped, and god preached nothing but kindess, understanding and compasion for your fellow man. Oh, and forgiveness.

Mawwle

[yaarii]

Originally posted by Mawwle
I agree.

The Un is either dead, or is going to go under a major overhaul.


Funny, the US seems to think its mighty important right now.


You must have missed Bushes speech the other day. The president you loved so much (clinton) did nothing to help, but the president you hate (BUsh) is doing everything iwhtin his power to create an actual nation of palestine and make peace once and for all in the mideast.

Whoops you just went into dipshit mode again,

1) I didn't love clinton, and I'm not a liberal. If you give me your email address I will happily spam you every single hour of every single day remind you that I am not a liberal.
2) Bush is doing exactly enough towards a palestinian state that will allow him to attack iraq. What was he doing about it BEFORE 9/11? NOTHING. NADA. SQUAT.

Next please.


But i am sure that once a nation of palestine is created, some dumb rag-head will fuck it all up again by killing some kids or old people in a homocide bombing mission.

As opposed to some dumb Jew who will order the death of a suspected militant, by missile, in a civilian area knowing there will be civilian deaths, without a trial!


Ok, i am not sure what you meant here. Nobody believes the quran? or nobody believes the bible? Because if you say nobody believes the quran, i find it kinda funny how this is the center of the religon, yet most muslims feel its a lie?

It's a bit like the creationism vs evolution argument in the US. Most christians now accept that the literal version in the bible is wrong. Most muslims feel the same way about those passages you mentioned.


That website is a joke, trying to say that offering up some animals for sacrafice is the same is straping a bomb to ones chest and killing innocent strangers is laughable at best. And besides that, any violence you will see is the bible (such as the cleansing of the earth with the flood and such) is in the old testament when god was supposedly a god of wrath. Again i am by no means a scholar, but what i can remember from my youthfull days in bible school classes, he at somepoint changed and in the entire new testament all the animal sacrafices and killlings stopped, and god preached nothing but kindess, understanding and compasion for your fellow man. Oh, and forgiveness.

Yeah well you missed the part about christianity being as much about bullshit as islam.

Go back and read the site again you illiterate, it details, quite gruesomely, the christian god's lust for blood and death.

And don't try to say this god "changed", because if god transcends time (afterall he supposedly created it), then how could he change?

[Chauliodus]

The Old Testament pwns, should be more action like that now a days.

[Pookrt]

Mexico taking over the US? Have you been to Texas?!?!?! English isn't even used over there. I went to Austin to go to a auction to find some speakers for cheap and not one of the people over there knew English at all. I'm not against people coming into this country if they know English and don't take jobs away, but if you don't know how to speak English pack your ass.

[Vallidus]

so why does Mexico always suck donkey balls in the Olympics?

[Vallidus]

Cuz all the good runners, jumpers and swimmers have already left country

[Stoffer]

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[Malignancy]

Yarii--

Will you please tell me where you live in Australia? It will be worth the shitty plane ride to come and rape your mother (because we all know you live at home with her and her pimp) and sodomize you with my 6'2 G&S surfboard before I hit the reef. Thanks and please kill yourself :)

EC

[yaarii]

Oooh, real life threats. Indicates you just got pwned~

[Malignancy]

It wasn't a threat you stupid baffoon....it was a witty joke that made me smile when I said it. Btw, I just prove yet another point to myself - a fool like yourself believes anything he reads. You're a pawn...a worthless piece of shit who believes your pussy-ass australian controlled media.

How does it feel to be worthless and know that you will never amount to anything in life?

EC

[Vallidus]

Malignancy, c'mon, how can you be so wrong~

Surely you remember in history class when ya studied up on all the con artist heroin junkies throughout history!

Hes a legend in the making

[yaarii]

Nice backtracking Malignancy. You got pwned so now its just a "joke".

You can go and sulk in the corner now, loser~