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Saradin
12-03-2003, 12:42 AM
Once vs Saradin (testing)

GrayRage
12-03-2003, 06:07 AM
:D

oNCe
12-03-2003, 12:27 PM
me vs ekimus













and jus fyi i cant upload replays over 102k which is gay.. so im limited~ (edit- fixed now thx gray! 175k limit)

oNCe
12-03-2003, 12:34 PM
heres an old 1 vs sieges~ might be RoC

oNCe
12-03-2003, 12:40 PM
and heres 1 vs sar

GrayRage
12-06-2003, 01:48 PM
Me and mindgames I tried a new build that i kinda like. Look at it and let us know what to do better please.

GrayRage
12-06-2003, 02:29 PM
My best game yet! And i still suck :( But i won this one!~ was a crazy game that i thought i lost for sure...but somehow won! :)

Calrenkarn
12-06-2003, 02:44 PM
I watched the replay and I noticed a few things that stuck out for Gray vs Mindgames;

Gray - After you got about 3 grunts you had around 400-500 gold, you need to upgrade town hall asap (since the 300 gold wont set you back that much). I also noticed that you didnt get casters (which is usually what people get... though it does set them back over 1000 gold just to tech it + time). I suggest getting the silo for next game and getting 1-2 kudo beast as they get the armor/weapon benefit and give all your units a higher attack with wardrums (or devour enemy units). Otherwise your stratagy was pretty sound and all your units benefited from your teching, also a good hero selection as aura/heals made up for the lack of shammy/doc power.

Mindgames- Overall your build order was good at the beginning but while you were creeping you didn't immediately go for the mine beside your base (you went for some creeps with 2 lvl 5 Maulers and a lvl 5 Caster and lost all your foots :P ). At about the half way point when you were attacked by Gray you must have waypointed your casters while creeping so you had 1 priest/2 casters/ 1 foot standing around on the other side of the map (happens to me sometimes to :P). As a note, always check one of your opponents units to see what kind of teching they have done, if grays melee have 2nd teir weapons/armor then your units should have atleast that much if not 3rd teir (this could have changed the outcome of the first and last battles since your foots and knights were still using 1st teir equipment and while he had 3rd teir). Also make sure that if you get casters tech them fully (priests +5 armor spell is key to alot of games and makes a huge difference if not dispelled and slow or polymorph can devistate most armies) Also get atleast 2 heros every game (any second hero will be a big help) and all go well with Archmage. Also in the last fight target his ranged with your air next time as he would have been owned without the zerkers.

Not bad overall, i definately want to have you guys a few games :D (im not as good as Saradin/Once so you wont get owned)

Calrenkarn
12-06-2003, 03:01 PM
Lol i checked out that close game, kept me on the edge of my seat. Definately an amazing comeback and your tech saved you in that game as well (you had 3rd teir armor way before that guy had 2nd teir). You had alot of gold (2000-3000) so you should have built another totem for more cows but its easy to say that you got lucky since he could have rushed you after you got crushed by his army. A few things made him weaker overall though (not only did he mine 3000 gold less than you but he put more into ranged than melee so he had no tanks when going after your base).

GrayRage
12-06-2003, 04:04 PM
I saw what u were talkin about with the air being sneaky ;p Altho u can see i still tried like hell ot make spear throwers, I had no chance with u culling 3 gold mines and having owned my barracks plus having 3 dragon makers. I really dunno what I could do in that game different...those dragons are rough...perhaps if i had some towers but the dragons own the buildings fast too. I think if i did not get stuck in the first fight too it would not have hurt me so bad. I just got smoked tho :p Was fun.

For those of u who don;t know what i am talkin about, Calrenkarn and i went at it. He squashed me :P

Calrenkarn
12-06-2003, 04:25 PM
Ya i noticed a few thinks in that game for sure:

- Always get atleast 2 barracks (lossing your only spear producer really hit hard)
- You need to work on speed alittle, so far this is our time differences....

1) 2nd mine - 1 min after me
2) 2nd teir Townhall - 2 min after me
3) 3rd teir Townhall - 2-3 min after me

- Try keeping your main party moving at all times.. this can be tricky especially when you have alot of things to do in your town but the more creeps you get before having a fight with your opponent the stronger your heros will be. Macros help with this alot (though i never use them, just cant get the hang of it :P).

- Always spend your gold on anything (units/heros/upgrades). The less you have, the more you know that your prepared.

The time differences made a large enough gap for me to tech chims up fast and hit you base before you could mass enough defence. Scouting is a good way to prevent this but I cannot stress enough that if you dont get casters (docs/shammies) you need Beast silos as Bat riders are the best AA for Orcs (as they can kill air units with self destruct) and kudos for overall attacking. If you had Bats I may not have won or would be forced to switch tactics on the fly. Otherwise i made a few large errors as well (the biggest was attacking your second hero with my chims instead of going for your houses as well as standing around for periods of time). Oh well, GG Gray :D

GrayRage
12-06-2003, 09:26 PM
so then i play Dan who claims to be a newb and owned me. Fucker ;p Anyhow i got him back :)

Calrenkarn
12-06-2003, 11:14 PM
That was a pretty good game for ya gray, alot of corrections made and you rushed instead of the usual :). Largest mistakes were made by Dan overall (sorry dan) as you shouldnt have made wyverns against an orc opponent (they have light armor so Head hunters just clobber them). Shammies/docs would have worked perfectly but by the time gray attacked his forces were around 60/70 and yours were 40/50. Also UPGRADE YOUR UNITS!!, expecially against orcs :P. Unless your UD always upgrade your tanks or you will get overrun... Also grunts arn't weak against head hunters anymore, there only weak against magic attacks (ie shammies/docs/crows/priests/heros/ect..).

Inorcist
12-07-2003, 01:19 AM
mmkay!

Calrenkarn
12-07-2003, 02:07 AM
1st 4vs4 win with Danubi/Mindgames/Morph

GrayRage
12-07-2003, 08:32 AM
OMG Daniel is a homo :( hehe fag fag fag! :D

Ok got another one where we actually lost, but it was a good game and dan/brian wanted to see it so here it is:

3 v 3 with Dan, Brian and me versus some gimps who got lucky :p

We played another 3 v after that and so owned the guys we played, I am not gonna bother putting it up unless brian or dan needs to see it.

Mindgames
12-07-2003, 12:21 PM
MG vs Gray.. He usually whips my ass..
I must be improving.

GrayRage
12-07-2003, 01:14 PM
homo

Danubi
12-07-2003, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by GrayRage
so then i play Dan who claims to be a newb and owned me. Fucker ;p Anyhow i got him back :)


and u only upload the one where u won :\ slacker!

Tashern
12-07-2003, 07:18 PM
Solo game me(Pikilitity) lvl 6 orc vs this cocky lvl 6 human.

Orc players careful of this human cheese, but worked out for me in the end.

Morphite

GrayRage
12-08-2003, 04:16 AM
U guys gotta see tash's game. That shit was funny :p

Saradin
12-08-2003, 01:43 PM
We need to get some of these going. I drop by darkenbane on USEast sometimes but i only see cal and I caught morph afk the other day. I'm still not playing till they patch but when they do, I'll switch to east if you guys actually play. Just curious as to when you guys actually play? Some 2v2's would be fun. Too bad Once's mom grounded him and stole his tft cd so he can't play for now.

Inorcist
12-08-2003, 02:50 PM
/yawn

Danubi
12-08-2003, 05:25 PM
oNCE and Danubi vs gray and mg

oNCe
12-08-2003, 06:01 PM
HEHE me vs dan!

Tashern
12-08-2003, 07:30 PM
Dunno why I have to play the idiots every game

GrayRage
12-09-2003, 04:53 AM
Dan is gay
Ino is gay

Tash, make those pics just a tad bigger please :)

Sar, just login TS bro. Everyone usually is in there and we need to all get used to using it too.

BTW, Tash, I bet that guy was secretly Stoffer :( And u should upload that to the site so folks can see it even when this post is long gone :_)

Danubi
12-09-2003, 05:52 PM
Nice fight sar :p gotta learn a few tricks from ya :D

Sar, gray dan vs once, mg and morphite

Mindgames
12-10-2003, 12:48 PM
Orc beatdowns 101

Saradin
12-11-2003, 02:31 AM
Just another reason why this game needs a patch. Orc players having trouble w/ undead might want to watch this. And if you play UD and know how to counter it, Once and I would like to know ^_^.

Calrenkarn
12-12-2003, 12:58 AM
Lol what a game, gives the real moral to never giving up even when the odds are against you. Hands down the longest ive played and had the odds against us in an entire game and still come out with a win.

GrayRage
12-12-2003, 09:07 AM
Lol, i am trying to figure out who was worse, Pink on your team or purple on theirs :p Or me :( U won that game bro.

Danubi
12-12-2003, 10:32 AM
Stoffer got owned~

Stoffer
12-13-2003, 10:12 AM
Lol check this out. so funny.

Stoffer
12-13-2003, 10:12 AM
LOL @ danubi.

I beat his ass first and lose the 2nd game. Then the gimp goes and uploads his victory.

GrayRage
12-13-2003, 03:21 PM
Ok stoff, i have some questions for you :D

1. When he....peon rushed you...hehe....why did you peon rush and kill your own burrow? ;p U were helpin "her"? :p

2. When she offerred to suck you dick, you should have accepted :p

3. Why did you blow up "her" barracks? You coulda let it live and kept the pleasant conversation goin' :D


HAHAHAHAAHAHAH :D Make some screen caps from that one :p

Saradin
12-13-2003, 10:40 PM
From earlier today:

Stoffer
12-13-2003, 10:59 PM
1. When he....peon rushed you...hehe....why did you peon rush and kill your own burrow? ;p U were helpin "her"?

SHE built the burrow in my base. It was'nt mine, it was hers.

2. When she offerred to suck you dick, you should have accepted

She lives in new mexico, I live in Denmark.

3. Why did you blow up "her" barracks? You coulda let it live and kept the pleasant conversation goin'

Owned =(

Mindgames
12-13-2003, 11:02 PM
i was loling at that replay

that aint no chic

and meet me in "r" should have been meet me in retard room

Stoffer
12-14-2003, 05:32 AM
I did meet "her" in r. "She" was like "i'll fuck you" and "If you teach me how to play, i'll love you forever". "She" was major roflmao.

GrayRage
12-14-2003, 09:31 AM
omg rofl :D

Danubi
12-14-2003, 04:54 PM
well we went to the tournament. Me Urbaninja and stoffer.

here are the games.

first replay~

Danubi
12-14-2003, 04:57 PM
hrmm when u have 3405984395 replays its hard to find the right one so here is the third we won

Danubi
12-14-2003, 05:00 PM
battle 2

GrayRage
12-15-2003, 07:16 AM
The one where u guys were swapping bases was pretty cool :) Stofferr musta been getting pissed off they kept picking on him :p