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Saradin
12-18-2003, 10:34 PM
You are all retards. Half of you are probably hypocrits too ^_^

Same broken game, different set of pvp rules. Either way, I don't see how you play a game that isn't based on skill.

Sar-

Darwoth
12-19-2003, 04:22 AM
it is like before kunark (ie before the expansions ruined pvp), and i dont really care if it involves "skill" or not, back in the day it did, at least yoiu thought so then, i just like killing retards and having them bitch and whine.

certainly requires more skill than daoc or SB did.

when i want to match 100% skill i play chess, when i want to PK i log onto an rpg, was in UO, since all the old school pks are here i am to for the time being.

GrayRage
12-19-2003, 06:35 AM
One thing about it is DB has found themselves on the top of the food chain. When we kill someone and they threaten to kill us forever....we giggle and ask them to give us a tell when they make it back up to level 6 :D

Fear of DB exists on Discord.

FOH actually had a guild created....they are all gone now :(

oNCe
12-19-2003, 06:53 AM
Same broken game, different set of pvp rules. Either way, I don't see how you play a game that isn't based on skill.

its not broken at all.. AA and expansions after velious broke PvP in EQ..

pre velious i had/have 0 complaints. Exping is only gay thing in the game..

and btw.. Dischord is more blanced then War3 currently is

Danubi
12-19-2003, 07:00 AM
once, its the old world only, no AA no Uber gear. read the fucking ruleset man'



OLD WORLD~

Stoffer
12-19-2003, 09:00 AM
You're saying that surviving on a server where your char gets reset if you die for ANY resaon does not take skill?.

Come prove it kthx.

oNCe
12-19-2003, 09:21 AM
once, its the old world only, no AA no Uber gear. read the fucking ruleset man'

wtf i agree.. read my post pos, i was quoting Sar~

GrayRage
12-19-2003, 09:49 AM
The crack is ruining Dan's head :(

Fistanthalas
12-19-2003, 09:50 AM
read much Dan?!? =P
Saradin's right, it's still the same broken game, but you got something better to do for the time being?!? Its mad fun being a total newb again and runnin around w/ your boys, but Sara if you got a better idea I'll hear it~

Meter
12-19-2003, 10:08 AM
If i had the time i would certainly play this instead of anything else out there today =). I would play a halfling druid =). I hope you guys post some cool screenshots soon.

Danubi
12-19-2003, 10:12 AM
guess i am on crack :\

But yes i have better things todo... potime flagged shaman on legends? few kills away from quarm(sp?)

But id rather chill with the old boys. much more fun~

Mindgames
12-19-2003, 11:47 AM
Saradin's right, it's still the same broken game, but you got something better to do for the time being?!? Its mad fun being a total newb again and runnin around w/ your boys, but Sara if you got a better idea I'll hear it~


Amen to that... I havent had this much fun in eq in a while.

dont knock it till you tried it.

Saradin
12-19-2003, 01:41 PM
It's just a temp server right? They are only going to do it for a month?

I still think war3 is fun so that is my alternate atm. I also don't want to be burnt out on an mmorpg when WoW does roll around. If i get bored of my current game I will come join you but I would have a hard time returning to a game that wasn't built for pvp, regardless of ruleset.

Darwoth - Gena msged me the other day saying the fixed SB, so its probably better. Fuck that too.

Stofferr - I proved it on SZ. I don't need to reprove shit I've already done.

K have to go or it would be longer.

Stoffer
12-19-2003, 10:25 PM
Stofferr - I proved it on SZ. I don't need to reprove shit I've already done.

LOL.

You proved that playtime gives you fame. Im not saying that you're not a good pvper. Infact i don't doubt that you're an excellent pvper.

What im saying, is that being a good pvper is not all that. DB is full of good pvpers incfact. DB is not full off allround gamers. I've seen so many people that got respect as pvpers, because they built their base easily (SZ? yea, the easiest of the pvp servers).

What im saying is, that this server does not ONLY take pvp skill. It also takes IQ (obvious proof is that it ran for 5 days and only 20 people reached 10+ for longer than a few hours). Were talking a server where FoH was the first guild made.

It's simple. If you can't/won't prove that you can play on Discord, I simply can't see where you prove your skills. Discord is the only real chance to prove you're not only a good pvper, you also have brains.

(Fine, you can cast TEH ICE COMET, but if you can't lvl above 5 without being slain by a zombie, plz, don't ever call yourself hardcore.)

Saradin
12-20-2003, 12:15 AM
You proved that playtime gives you fame.

No I proved on SZ that I could take a crew and own anything. That is what I set out to do and that is what I accomplished.

#1 guild in pvp points w/ only 20 members
Held #1 multiple times in pvp points
Named strongest core guild by EQVault on SZ

I could go on w/ lists of accomplishments but only my gear, being first neutral wiz to 60 and epiced was related to my playtime.

The game you are playing is still and will always be based on playtime, not skill. So while I agree that it is a more hardcore server, you will have to form a better argument or better define what you mean by hardcore. Hardcore to me was picking a neutral dark elf and leveling in the forest of 300+ kos the first night without dying. Hardcore is the fact that I could take 10 people from my old crew and own the server you are on. Unfortunately it would take quite a bit of playtime that I am not willing to devote to a game I am just not that interested in anymore.

I'll probably drop by and play casually until they fix War3 but really the only mmorpg I am looking forward to is WoW, and I'd rather not be burnt out from playing when that rolls around.

I take back my retard comment and I agree, there really is nothing else worth playing. So kill time as you will ~

Toaday
12-20-2003, 03:44 AM
i wont intrude on yet again another pissing match between you two

except that this:
SZ? yea, the easiest of the pvp servers
is bull-s-h-i-t

Stoffer
12-20-2003, 06:26 AM
My post was not in any way meant to undermine you're accomplisments. As I said, I don't need SZ to know you're a good pvper, I'm aware of that.

Discord is a server for complete players. You can't survive if you're only a pvp expert, and you can't survive if you're only a pve expert. Its pretty simple, the good players make it far. People who survived on time ingame are having a lot of trouble coping, and the people on top are not the ones online 24/7.

And to the eternal troll Toad, yes faction based servers ARE easier.

PellaeonSZ
12-20-2003, 11:32 AM
#1 Discord is a joke :( I thought about re-activating an account when I heard a new PvP server was in the works... but the ruleset is dumb and it's only a temporary server. And its Everquest for crying out loud :p

#2 You can't really prove your PvP prowess or lack-of with a level 8 character. Maybe if you all had a chance to get level 50, then have 1 vs 1's against other level 50's with the danger of being turned back to a n00b then you can say that it requires skill to survive.

#3 The super majority of the players that are/were known in SZ played wizards, including Saradin :D Mezmoriah, Kirban, Grunter, Immorality... I could go on. So Saradin is right, EQ was unbalanced and your class + gear determined how good you were in PvP. Being smart (aka having skills) helps, but not as much as you think. Let's hope WoW and Ultima X add more skills into PvP/duels :cool:

Marqus
12-20-2003, 12:05 PM
Wixxards? Pfft..

Shammy #1

Nexex
12-20-2003, 02:18 PM
shammy would be the best charecter to play on that server.

pets, sow, blind, heals, soc, nukes, dots, root, buffs, regen, its a simple choice =p

Tareslaeyn
12-21-2003, 07:07 AM
Damn if I wasn't getting so much pussy I wouldv'e proven myself a longtime ago on every server :D :cool: :p