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Calrenkarn
01-01-2002, 05:36 AM
Well incase most of you hadnt figured it out yet SZ is the best server EQ has made so far. Some dip shit is probably saying (LOL SZ Sucks!) but wtf do they really know :P i play on SZ regularly and it kicks ass compared to RZ, here are some reasons why...

1) 20% exp bonus PER KILL- Has anyone really thought how good this is for lvls like 54? And if anyone didnt notice this is the ONLY SERVER with this Bonus.

2) Exp deaths from PVP and 50% LESS exp Loss from ALL DEATHS. Put it this way... you die to mobs, you lose half the exp you usually do, you kill someone they lose exp and you get to laugh at them :) and if you die (Lol) you can just get a Cleric from you team to help rez you and surprizingly they dont ask for money either...... To add to this you only lose exp if the killer is in range of 5 lvls of you or below your lvl which doesnt happen often.

3) PVP FOR ALL! - Lvl 60 can kill lvl 5's, if youve ever ran into Crushbone and used an AE on 20 ppl to just see them all running and spaming you with "You have slain Druid 01" it becomes clear that it never gets old :) Also the resist differance between lvl 60's and all others is reduced so they are no longer complete gods that everyone must bow down to, even lvl 45's can kill a lvl 60 character if they dont have extreme resists.

4) Easy exp- Have you ever wanted zones that had no pvp in them without having to worry about annoying pkers, well Sullen has alot of zone control so most high lvl dungeons are either one dieties or the others in which you get safety to exp and get items. And most of all with the addition of Luclin evils are almost never in Kunark dungeons so Neutrals can raid there with few interuptions :)

5) Non pvp loots- Ya alot of ppl hate this part but nobody really thinks of how awsome this really is. Set aside from the player who stays lvl 30-49 so most ppl in range dont get no drop armor from Sky Shrine for shitty loots just so they can pvp for low class armor is worthless, unless thats the only reason you like this game :P. Sullen offers you the ablility to wear ANY kind of armor you want and be fully equiped for combat all the time, no risk pvping and exping with drop equipment and lossing it at low life. This opens the doors to all out Pvp at its highest point where both players or teams are at there max and fights are brutal. If you dont go for that keep in mind that on most Pvp servers once you get over lvl 45 most ppl have close to full no drop anyways so their is almost no point in wanting there crappy armor.

There are a few good reasons why Sullen Zek is easily the best pvp server, teams are helpful, pvp is awsome, sucks if you have to waste your life where everything that drops off Avatar of War is now common on the server :P and you dont get ahead from killing newb lvl 30's for silver jewelry or bronze armor.

Phisha
01-01-2002, 11:40 AM
Not to mention it's got about 500 people on it daily, and theres never groups, or buffs, or anything ever available to you unless you started on it early and got a good guild who power-gamed to the top... :( I like the concept of Sullon but it needs a bigger population, especially for us who were reluctant to start there when it first came out.

Vallidus
01-01-2002, 04:32 PM
Gotta agree with both of ya here, its soo fun on sullon zek, but when the time comes to xp its almost impossible to find anyone to group with (at least at 20th) I went to high hold (zero people) high hold keep (7 people, all in a group but me) and thenfinally Unrest all the way on Faydwer and yet again, no one there at all...


Its really kick butt if more people played there for sure, but atm i dunno, doesnt seem to be too many people on my team in my level range that i can xp with, sure i can solo, but thats boring and slower then a good dungeon or 2 person group inthe wild :P

*sigh*

Utan the Fool
01-01-2002, 10:22 PM
1) the xp bonus? gee u gotta make up that xp u loose some how.

2) exp from pvp is 50% less than regular npc death?
why would u like losing xp more on a PVP server??
ppl are more likey to wanna pk u over and over to make u lose xp.. this 50% thing is just so that players dont cry too hard

3) what is the fun in pking lvl 6's? ur wasting your time and their time. its dull harrasment and imature.

4) zone control??? *gee i wish i could go to fear today.. oh wait i cant im on the good team. oh gosh darn it*
this team stuff makes races under/over used cuz u cant group nor trade with opposing teams. so seriously ur walking around knowing that ppl are gonna knock u down just cuz your on the other team.

PVP loots....when ur 50+ how many dropable items are u going at have??? as much as 4.. ohhhhhhh whats the matter cant bag fast enuf???


now compared to RZ.
1)xp is found where company is wanted.
if ur not wanted then go someplace else.
if your guild is owning a zone(PB > seb)
u can xp there till the cows come home.

2) xp death??? play nice rules are gone.. u train u lose xp same stuff u get a rez. dont cry Angelito.
u get trained u shrug it off.

3) pvp 4 lvl limit.
sorry if im used to fair or almost fair fights.
if i wanna pick on n00bs ill make a n00b and beat them at their own game honorably.

4)u xp where ppl wont kill u... its that simple.
RZ isnt over crowded theres TONS of places to xp

5) no drop corpse loots.
u know wheres the bonus of getting an item?
oooh a token u hand in for faction
gee might as well just hand him your ear!
tell me would u rather get an item or a token when u pk?
if i lost an item.. gee whose idea was it to wear it?
plus at higher lvls i dont care cuz i dont get pked much.


seriously SZ SUCKS
its not even a real PVP server
u have BLUE TAGS
i consider it a carebear arena server.
those are my ideas
reply!

Calrenkarn
01-01-2002, 10:23 PM
Heres the idea i got. Ask your guild on RZ, TZ, VZ and find out if they would all join SZ as a guild. That way you would have ppl you know well and like and you would always have a group. You dont need powergamers to get 6ppl or more to a server and make characters :)

Calrenkarn
01-01-2002, 10:38 PM
Yes... just listen to Utan "The Fool"

Mortaneous
01-02-2002, 12:05 AM
No one cares. Go preach about SZ on a board thats related to your server...

Utan the Fool
01-02-2002, 03:04 AM
FYI have played SZ and i like most of the ppl came back to my regular serer within a week and a half.

that server is not the definition of PVP

oooh used my name a against me
does BC stand for Butt crack ?

now go play with grunter or whoever is still left on that server
i noticed that 801 is playing his mage now
and damp is back

the mob has spoken
and let calren be quiet
kthx~

PureKovak
01-02-2002, 02:40 PM
i've played on SZ, and i don't see how its any different from any other pvp server, except high levels can grief low levels.

if you are looking for pvp then eq is the wrong game for you, people are more interested in phat lewt, just read all the shit on this board and on db's news page. db on RZ was much more into pvp, just look at what classes they consisted of, they were 90% wizards and druids.

your arguments in favor of SZ are worthless, the exp loss is so minimal (especially if they get a res) that dying to pvp is a joke, they might as well lose no exp from it. item loot is the way to go, but it was also one of the downfalls of RZ, nobody had the balls to wear gear (most resist gear is NOT no drop) so pvp heavily favored casters but when you died to pvp you just went and got your shit and moved on.

i just got daoc and so far its just been a shitty level'ing treadmill so i can't comment on pvp and may never even get high enough to pvp since level'ing is so fucking boring (worse than eq) but i think it might have potential since the end game is all about pvp (realm vs realm) and not boring pve raiding for phat lewt.