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Krygor
02-18-2004, 08:30 PM
Hrm interesting poll. I edited out my sexist comments to try to ward off the death threats, anyways, to watch the movie click this link and follow the link on the page.
Click this link to see movie. (http://www.angelfire.com/rings/krygor/femalepvp.html)

-={Apparently I've exceeded the max bandwith amount so the movie will become avaiable again in a few hours, sorry for the wait =(

Marqus
02-18-2004, 09:13 PM
... .... ...

Hamadryad
02-18-2004, 09:38 PM
You're fucking dead Krygor.

:D

HarukoSZ
02-18-2004, 09:40 PM
come to philly AND SAY THAT SHIT

Krygor
02-18-2004, 09:48 PM
I remove the somewhat mean things, I believe there are exceptions to every rule, but come on, Barby dolls don't teach pvp, GI Joe does....

Hamadryad
02-18-2004, 09:59 PM
Didn't see the video, but I think girls can play video games just as well as guys can. Alot of people can't stand video games though, and I would guess that a large portion of those people would be girls. People don't like what they aren't used to -- And if a girl is never given a video game when she is younger, she would be less likely to be interested later on I think.

Sieges
02-18-2004, 10:07 PM
You're fucking dead Krygor.

:D

omg are you going to kill him?

Hamadryad
02-18-2004, 10:17 PM
You'd like that WOULDN'T YOU, you SICKO.

Ekimus
02-18-2004, 11:39 PM
well if you dont your not very good at pvp :p

Arillious
02-18-2004, 11:56 PM
They definently have the capability to be as good as males. The only thing females are inferior to males in is things that require physical labor/skills. Females are ussually not the gameing type and when they are they ussually are to "nice" to pk very often and therefore are not as good at it. But I voted yes because a female can click a few buttons just as good as a male could.

Xgen
02-19-2004, 12:39 AM
Thats a tough question and I decided not to vote because its true some of the time, and its false some of the time. People are skilled at different things, regardless of age, race, or SEX. Some of the best EQ players "Non-PVP" Ive played with were female. The reason I say "Non-PVP" is because I havent encounterd as many females that play pvp. Probably due to the fact that women sympathize more for someone thats on the receiving end of computer screen. How many women do you know that would camp a corpse for hours on end? I dont have the hard facts, but Im sure my theory is true.

Danubi
02-19-2004, 12:41 AM
You'd like that WOULDN'T YOU, you SICKO.

yeah that we would... then u ncould come play with me afterwards~

Xgen
02-19-2004, 12:51 AM
my gf hates video games so much sometimes i think shes about to PVP me IRL.

Hamadryad
02-19-2004, 01:38 AM
I'll agree with the sympathizing thing...My first pvp kills when I was in Darkenbane on Rallos made me feel really bad. But soon enough I started to enjoy making people suffer! :D

I actually still never try to grief someone in game unless I feel they deserve it. On SZ I had no problem corpse camping evils and exping them because they chose team EZ and had a HUGE advantage in my mind.

If I kill someone and they respectfully ask (aka grovel) for their corpse, I'll let them have it now.

If they don't I will just keep killing them :P

HarukoSZ
02-19-2004, 02:44 AM
I think I do my share of good deeds, 1 out of every 300 or so greens I let live with 5% or so HP, it makes me feel good about myself that im not a TOTAL ass~

Meter
02-19-2004, 03:34 AM
lol

Hamadryad
02-19-2004, 03:44 AM
*shakes fist at Meter*

Vlad
02-19-2004, 03:47 AM
Well, I voted no because of my personal experiences in the area of female gaming. Ok my X-girlfriend kinda got me hooked on her big time because she was hot AND said she liked to play games. Can’t get much better of a match then that aye? So after we start going out for a while I see her play some halflife or something and god damn, lets just say she aint a pro haha. Of course she blamed that on not playing for a while. Of course that’s just 1 girl out of the like maybe 10 girls that play games in my school (bunch of stuck up, high maintenance, cheerleaders in my school) so I cannot make a judgment off just one aye? Oh wait I just did never mind…Girls can’t play worth shiat, sorry :P .. /em is a sexist pig

Krygor
02-19-2004, 04:05 AM
Oh no's! The poll's neck and neck!

Hamadryad
02-19-2004, 04:09 AM
Duel you on any Sullon character you can get your hands on Vlad :p

HarukoSZ
02-19-2004, 04:26 AM
I dunno hama, today when we were killing that even.... you didnt use your lighting to stun him so he couldnt gate... : (

EDIT: I kill WITHOUT WARNING!!@!@~

Jawdog
02-19-2004, 05:01 AM
If a woman is going to beat you at p vs p, she's more likely to want a permanent, commited solution than a man is. This is probably by finding out where you live, then coming around to your house and slitting your throat while you sleep. I'd be careful Krygor, very careful. 2 words - bunny boiler.

Krygor
02-19-2004, 05:34 AM
Fear no Hama, see no Hame speak no Hame =p. BTW, nobody can come close to killing this leet ninja!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stoffer
02-19-2004, 07:46 AM
Females make great support classes.............

AD Nnuk
02-19-2004, 09:10 AM
I voted "Yes"... But it was a tentative yes at best.

Can a typical female surpass a typical male's ability in PvP? Yes... It is within the realm of possibility.

I mainly play solo but the few regular partners I've had over the years have almost all been female. It takes A LOT more work to get them up to par though -- There's an entire mindset to overcome and females are amazingly fucking stubborn.

Understand that I do not mean the whole "chicks are too nice" argument exclusively because if you can tap into the "woman scorned" part of their personalities, by God, what is there could make a grown man cry.

/chuckles

I've killed entire groups by hitting my /pet attack hotkey (/g Hey Hammy... Those guys over there said that women should be kept barefoot and pregnant -- Preferably with a muzzle!) and sitting down for a coupla mins. :p

Nnuk

PS The above is said with MMORPGs in mind -- FPS, RTS and other gaming genres have an entirely different dynamic which I am in no way knowledgable enough to form an opinion one way or the other.

Fistanthalas
02-19-2004, 09:47 AM
Hmmmm, I voted yes!
As Fist, I dueled alot of you guys back in the day and I've fought Hama on her Ranger on several occasions and there is no doubt in my mind that she would FUCK most of you up (and that was on her RANGER!!! :eek: )
I also watched my friend Nikki fuckin WORK Laroux back on RZ when we let her play Treglen. So from what i've seen, the women who PvP may be > all of you! =P

Lesa
02-19-2004, 10:24 AM
Girls > own all men :p

Men are Like:

Men are like newborn babies.
They're cute at first, but you get tired of picking up their crap.

Men are like coffee.
The best ones are rich, hot and can keep you up all night.

Men are like computers.
Hard to figure out and never enough memory.

Men are like coolers.
Load them with beer and you can take them anywhere.

Men are like chocolate bars.
Sweet, smooth and they usually head right for your hips.

Men are like power tools.
They make a lot of noise, but it's hard to get them to work.

Men are like remote controls.
Simple. Easy to use. And usually lying around a TV.

Men are like shag carpets.
Soft, fuzzy and extremely easy to walk on.

Men are like vacuum cleaners.
They're not much fun, but at least you get to push them around.

Men are like road kill.
They usually just lie around until they start to smell.

Men are like soap operas.
They're fun to watch, but don't believe everything you hear.

Men are like pillows.
Eventually, even the best ones get soft and lumpy.

Men are like old car tires.
Balding, full of hot air, and it never hurts to have a spare.

Men are like plastic wrap.
Cheap. Clingy. And very easy to see through.

Men are like department stores.
Their clothes should always be half off.

Men are like horoscopes.
They always tell you what to do and are usually wrong.

Men are like cement.
After getting laid, they take a long time to get hard.

Men are like plungers.
They spend most of their lives in a hardware store or the bathroom

:p

Dynamic
02-19-2004, 10:28 AM
FYI, Lesa owned in Planetside, which is all pvp so yes.

But guys > girls always.

Hosfa
02-19-2004, 01:05 PM
im pretty sure I beat hama in a duel on my ranger before I quit, which is definate proof male > female pvpwise

Rahne Sinclair
02-19-2004, 01:44 PM
Women have been PVPing since creation, back then it was called PMSing.

Bradic
02-19-2004, 01:50 PM
Barby dolls don't teach pvp, GI Joe does....

I agree totally! What if G.I. Joe and Barbie DID fight though? Who would win? If you are talkin G.I. Joe with all thier tanks and guns and stuff I don't think Barbie has a chance. Maybe if it was Barbie vs Cobra she might win, Cobra always screws up easy stuff.... You gotta remember though, that there are also women in G.I. Joe! They might revolt and fight with Barbie! They should make a Barbie vs G.I. Joe movie! I bet it would end with all the G.I. Joe men tryin to hook up with Barbie though cuz you never see those G.I. Joe women hookin up 8(.

I didn't vote on this either cuz I really don't have alot of experience with the subject. The only girl I ever PKed with that I remember was Hama and she did well, I cant remember us ever dyin or me blowin a LOH on her either. I remember this druid that always used to try to PK me, Hieedi or something, she told me she was a girl irl but I dunno for sure, she never did well vs me, but she never gave up either. Thats about my only experience with that. Two very different ends of the spectrum I guess.

Jawdog
02-19-2004, 02:26 PM
Girls > own all men :p

:p

Seems an appropriate time to share my two favourite jokes -

How many men does it take to change a light bulb? None, let the bitch cook in the dark.

How many women with PMT does it take to change a light bulb? I don't care - just fuck off.

Lesa
02-19-2004, 03:03 PM
Why are vibrators better than men?

Because they never screw other women, never come in drunk, and you don’t have to do their laundry! :D

Fistanthalas
02-19-2004, 03:21 PM
Why are vibrators better than men?

Because they never screw other women, never come in drunk, and you don’t have to do their laundry! :D

Yah but vibrators don't eat pussy~

Vlad
02-19-2004, 03:43 PM
I'd love to go one on one vs some of you laides sometime.. Just to put the whole thing to rest haha.. On a fast paced game.. first person shooters are the best for testing your pvp skills imo. PS is prolly the slowest of the first person shooters(due to it being MM) Anyways one of you ladies should fightme on sof2 or something. Prove me wrong show me that ladies can take me out and maybe my vote can be changed :P.

Hamadryad
02-19-2004, 04:04 PM
I don't own PS and it's not really my type of game. Those FPS games require alot of practice too and you've played more than me :)

I used to be freaking deadly on a ranger Hosfa ;p

MethodSZ
02-19-2004, 04:09 PM
from my experience men are better at RTS and FPS games...such as starcraft warcraft or counter strike. due to the biological fact that men tend to use the problem solving / mathematical part of their brain as opposed to women who are better at the more liberal 'artsy' part. I think girls do just fine at EQ type games, where its not as fast paced or dont require as much evolved strategy

just my 2 cp =O

Mindgames
02-19-2004, 04:13 PM
I'm not touching this with a 10 foot pole.

Lesa
02-19-2004, 04:21 PM
Yah but vibrators don't eat pussy

Yeah Fist that is the only downside! :(

Rahne Sinclair
02-19-2004, 04:26 PM
Yeah Fist that is the only downside! :(

You can buy "The Tongue"

Vlad
02-19-2004, 06:57 PM
Very well put MethodSZ.. I must agree fully with you on everything you said in your above post

Stoffer
02-19-2004, 10:07 PM
I never dueled Hama on EQ and I don't doubt that she is a good pvper.

But let's get one thing straight:

If you ever, for any reason what so ever, died to a ranger, you are the fucking suck.

No offence to anyone, but the ranger was a fucking terrible pvp class.

HarukoSZ
02-19-2004, 10:41 PM
you are the fucking suck.

l........o....l

Hamadryad
02-19-2004, 10:54 PM
I had about 400 screenshots and I was on the top 10 DB pvpers (Genaside and Gray fought for number 1). I was only DB on rallos for about 5 or 6 months too :)

Ewwok
02-19-2004, 10:58 PM
from my point of view, i think women can equally be as good as men, so i voted yes on this poll... Ive seen hama pvp and damn shes good... havent actually dueled her myself =) would like to some day tho... but one thing for sure... Women > Men when it comes to games... pve/pvp... no.1 they can make u do shit u dont want to... women are evil! they use their powerful seductive powars! omg... and they have what we want =( ... my right hand isnt enuff to satisfy my wants... omg i am teh perverts

yaarii
02-20-2004, 07:28 AM
http://www.darkenbane.com/images.php?id=41585

Hama pvp'ing my necro with her necro. She started the fight with the level1 lifetap.... :rolleyes:

Rahne Sinclair
02-20-2004, 08:36 AM
I fought a few rangers in my time, I usually owned them, but there was one time where I fought a ranger in Burning Woods, I didn't have the mana to actually fight, I was quad kiting. I just wanted to put some distance between me and her, and gate.

Bad idea.

She plucked and critical'd me while I tried running away, keeping up with me. I mean just ROCKED my world, I ended up just getting in melee range so her arrows would stop owning me, but by then it was too late.

Hehe good thing I was bound about 100 feet from where I hunt, I was able to come back and snatch my corpse before she could decide which ub4r piece of mine to take.

Rangers usually stood no chance against me, but that one did. There are 2 fights in which I'm ashamed, one is that one, and another is when a bard found me in Timorous Deep with not even enough mana to gate away. I had to just sit there and take his slow ownage, while I was completely helpless to do anything about it.

hahah oh I also had a fight with DB in Overthere in which I got dropped, I found out I had regen in my healing slot. The screen shot is here actually hehe it's funny during the fight you can see "Rahne begins to regenerate" "Rahne begings to regenerate" and I was thinking "FUCK these heals are taking forever, what is GOING ON!@?!" Sorry...off on a tangent.

801
02-20-2004, 09:19 AM
yeh females can pvp

try playing rahne or hama at any strategic game

but im just posting to say WHATUP WODES!!!!

holler at you main wode-son

i just got back on planetside last night

send me a tell im "aytowun" on emerald NC

Rahne Sinclair
02-20-2004, 09:33 AM
Uh....

<---- Has a penis (Not a detachable one)

yeh females can pvp

try playing rahne or hama at any strategic game

but im just posting to say WHATUP WODES!!!!

holler at you main wode-son

i just got back on planetside last night

send me a tell im "aytowun" on emerald NC

HarukoSZ
02-21-2004, 02:38 AM
rofl....

Hamadryad
02-21-2004, 02:51 AM
Yaarii I was in a newb robe and probably fully bagged, that was my alt and she was 4 levels below you and you know it :P

AD Nnuk
02-21-2004, 03:02 AM
http://www.darkenbane.com/images.php?id=41585

Hama pvp'ing my necro with her necro. She started the fight with the level1 lifetap.... :rolleyes:

In light of the new evidence brought forth by Yaarii I'd like to change my vote to a "No" and add that Hammy is a suck necro. :(

Nnuk

yaarii
02-21-2004, 03:15 AM
That was the most relevant thing I could think to post :cool:

Hamadryad
02-21-2004, 05:05 AM
Well, in all fairness I was a spellset below him (Shock of poison or whatever that nuke was, and Venom of Snake) and poorly geared :P I always did suck at playing a necromancer though, because I wasn't used to it. It would have been a much closer fight on my ranger, I didn't really care to become good on Kattalia :P

yaarii
02-21-2004, 05:10 AM
Yeah I knew I was going to win - venom of the snake (i think?), that lvl34 dot, would have owned you even if you came with the right lifetap and gear (cept PR of course). You went in with no preparation.

Ianas
02-21-2004, 06:21 AM
I didn't read the entire post, mostly because I am lazy, but I am going to throw in a history lesson.

I have a twin sister, I remember both of us playing on the original Nintendo system. As I remember it, she completed more of that game than I ever did. She was good at it, of course this was from an age of 5-7 yo. The point being, we were both given video games, and given equal time, she was better hands down. However, I retained interest in video games where she did not. Reasons why are unknown to me. But from a psychological lvl in child development, I think it shoots a hole in the original arguement of girls having interest if given a video game and not a barby doll.

Now, from a psychological level, their are theories of things such as spacial ability that vary between men and women, but everything is hypothetical at best.

-Ianas
PS - "She uses leet haxors." Thats was just funny based, regardless of the fact that the character trinity was female.

Jawdog
02-21-2004, 08:49 AM
[QUOTE=Ianas]
Now, from a psychological level, their are theories of things such as spacial ability that vary between men and women, but everything is hypothetical at best.
QUOTE]

Hypothetical?

Have you ever heard a women trying to give directions?

And have you ever heard of a man willing to stop and ask for them?

AD Nnuk
02-21-2004, 09:24 AM
Well, in all fairness I was a spellset below him (Shock of poison or whatever that nuke was, and Venom of Snake) and poorly geared :P

That doesn't explain the lvl 1 lifetap, woman. :(


It would have been a much closer fight on my ranger

I agree with that statement... Assuming you'd have remembered to equip your weapons, of course. :p

Nnuk

MethodSZ
02-21-2004, 01:24 PM
eq pvp is completely different from regular pvp games, so its hard to judge

and btw, pre bow nerf rangers were top pvp class thx

Hamadryad
02-21-2004, 03:38 PM
I guess anyone can take an example of someone's ALT and a mistake they make once Nnuk but I recall some boneheaded deaths of yours pvping with you aswell, we all have had them.. (*cough* winged death)

Btw Method we arent talking pre bow NERF rangers, we are talking pre BOW rangers :P

AD Nnuk
02-21-2004, 06:45 PM
Nnuk but I recall some boneheaded deaths of yours pvping with you aswell, we all have had them.. (*cough* winged death)

Ya know... You just made me realize something -- Almost all of my post lvl-50 deaths happened during the period we hunted together.

suck ranger :(

Nnuk

PS Winged Death? :confused:

Hamadryad
02-21-2004, 07:35 PM
Hamadryad: "Hey Nnuk you should really use pumice stones"

Hamadryad: "Nnuk, you have a druid dot on you, you should prolly pumice that off"

Hamadryad: "Nnuk, you want me to dispell you? You're almost dead!"

Reason your deaths were with me was cause I was a risk taker! :P

SnakkpackJihads
02-21-2004, 07:43 PM
You'd like that WOULDN'T YOU, you SICKO.
maybe sieges wouldnt.... but i would... i think maybe endsiege an viktoire too! here my two cents, I will gladly accept that there are quite a few girls who could, can, and will kick my ass at video games, the one thign i have noticed though is in eq at least most of them are like grandmas... A cleric friend of mine rezzed me and gave me chocolate milk and gnome shaped cookies...

SnakkpackJihads
02-21-2004, 07:48 PM
Fear no Hama, see no Hame speak no Hame =p. BTW, nobody can come close to killing this leet ninja!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG... Krygor WTFpwned all the ladies in the guild, because hes a ninja ;-P

AD Nnuk
02-21-2004, 08:42 PM
Hamadryad: "Hey Nnuk you should really use pumice stones"

Hamadryad: "Nnuk, you have a druid dot on you, you should prolly pumice that off"

blah blah blah

Nnuk: "STFU already! I knew about *@&#^ pummice before Ordieth showed you how to use them, dag nab it! I just don't have one right now because I gave my last one to you earlier and you haven't stopped running around long enough for me to rebuff let alone go to the *@&^# store to buy more." /bangs head on wall


Reason your deaths were with me was cause I was a risk taker! :P

Risk taker... Friggin' lunatic -- It's a fine line. :p

Nnuk

Hamadryad
02-22-2004, 11:44 AM
I was a crazed lunatic that day we were attacking that group in Katta :P

Also I loved running to the very top of Velks and picking the groups off one by one. I used to have some screenshots of me up there being like "helloooo I'm killing your groupmembers, isn't anyone gonna stop me?"