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05-08-2004, 03:12 PM
Posted by stoffer (mailto: stoffer@darkenbane.com)
The past few weeks, Prophets and Seraphim have been fighting for the Guildwars server. There has been lots of good fighting, pie, trash talking and whatever follows good old pvp. Sadly, the feud has ended, not because of one side winning the battles (actually the side still standing has been taking a pretty severe pounding the last 2 weeks), but because a spoiled 12 year old child, Devn00b, happens to be a GM.
Over the past 2 days, most of the members in Prophets have been banned for protesting the corrupt GM, and most others have left in disgust of the way the server is being run.
Since most of us know some shady shit was going on, we began documenting the abuse, and the following will show you what actions made the population of a good server steadily drop to the point where it is embaressing.
Day 1:
(Newbie explanation inc). When you take cities, you have the option to place guards to protect your conquest. Now, there is a different price range on guards depending on what you want, and Prophets fortified Neriak as well as possible. A full set of guards like the ones we had, takes a large force of people, and a few hours of farming.
Usually, you have 1 cleric training the guards, a group tagging one of the guards and killing it. Then have the 2nd cleric pull the guards after number 1 dies, the group tags again and kills the guard, just keep repeating. This takes quite awhile and it’s pretty much impossible to fight them all at the same time.
Well what happens is 6 Seraphim zone into Neriak, and a wizard, yes a wizard, begins to tank our ENTIRE set of guards. The few people defending attacked the wizard but got the ”you cannot hit because he is invulnerable” message. Later, it turns out it was Devn00b playing a GM char.
Not only did he interfere with gameplay, show GM favoritism of the worst kind, he wasted the time we spent farming cash for the guard, the time we used to take the city, but he also had the nerve to lie about it afterwards, saying he didn’t play the wizard, and everything was ”legit”.
Here are the screenshots.....notice the warrizard with the tankage ability:
http://seriel.ggames.de/Bilder/EQ000007.jpg
http://seriel.ggames.de/Bilder/EQ000008.jpg
http://seriel.ggames.de/Bilder/EQ000010.jpg
Day 2:
After the Neriak incident a Prophets member deleted his char and another quit in protest. The rest of the guild began posting the screenshots we took on the boards. The thread and screenshots were repeatedly deleted, and the 4th time the post was made, it was allowed to stay for one hour. Then the thread was locked and the pics were deleted. Also, Devn00b gave us 3 guards as compensation, still saying nothing illegal happened..
The accused GM says nothings wrong, but he:
1. Repeatedly deleted treads with solid evidence SOMETHING was wrong (it’s not clear on the pictures that he is playing the char, but we have several screenshots of his guildmembers admitting it, but they won’t be posted to protect their accounts).
2. Reimbursed us with 3 guards. Why is it you would reimburse someone if nothing is wrong?
Frustrated that we can’t make our points on the board, the discussion moved ingame. We all suspected Dev of acting like a spoiled brat, but his reaction was so retarded it caught everyone off guard. He joined Prophets on his GM char, removed all members from the guild, handed all our cities to Seraphim and filled the guild with Seraphim alt chars. He then started banning our members, which were later lifted, because he probably realized he acted retarded.
More members left in protest, and the remaining Prophets members reformed under a new tag.
The same day, Devn00b joined Seraphim with his ranger equipped with GM gear. Seraphim then headed to Sol B to kill Naggy. What happened there i’ll leave up to one of the Seraphim members attending the raid (this is copied from the GW msgboards, if the post hasn’t been deleted yet):
” was a member of Seraphim for a few hours yesterday. In that time we killed Nagafen. Some interesting things happened on that raid. We had Manrider tank for us, who had 2800 hp unbuffed with his GM gear. He was critiing with his bow for 400. We failed Naggy the first time, and he offered to #summon us back. We all ran back but Victoria got a #summon. The second Naggy attempt Manrider popped a "Can of Whoop Ass" potion which added something like 900 to all his stats. Nonaag informed me that "This GM bullshit has been going on for a few days." To his credit he was tired of it, and agreed with me that it was bullshit and unfair.
I have seen the Ranger epics, Favio was able to link them for us in guildchat. One of them has Vengeance VII on it, the other has some type of bard effect. Gaining an epic will be hard to do. It will be a combination of pkp and questing. There will be a hard mob encounter to finish all epics. Seraphim has SoS Hero's in Neriak and Halas. When I was in Prophets I placed 4 heros and did not get one SoS. I even heard that SoS heros had been nerfed off the server, but we all know that Seraphim can't fight without full shaman buffs and haste.
From here I doubt I'll play much on this server, and I would advise most people to abandon it. Three hours in Seraphim confirmed what I had suspected since the day I joined GW. The majority of them are retards who can't get ahead without cheating. “
Day 3:
GW doesn’t have many rules. The official ruleset says that ninjalooting is fine, and it’s always been done. Last week, Prophets killed Gunther, and a member of Seraphim ninjalooted. Today, we thought we would return the favor, and we attended the raid and did indeed ninja loot Gunter, like it had been done to us a week before.
Suddenly Devn00b (He joined Seraphim yesterday remember? He happened to be maintanking Gunther) says Daefuin is getting banned for ninjalooting. Obviously, we are all shocked because it’s clearly stated in the ruleset that it’s legal. It was done to us a few days earlier. Well, it seems that a few days back, the rule was changed, it was broadcasted ONCE and the ruleset wasn’t updated. Basically, no one except the GM that made the broadcast knew, or had a chance to know the rules were changed.
Naturally, most of us, tired of several days of GM side cheating, began arguing with Devn00b. It ends with a few of us getting banned (myself included).
The gayness of his behavior goes beyond description, and it can only boggle the mind that a person like him enforces the rules. How can someone blatantly cheat with one hand and then ban people for cheating with the other? I think the lesson here is never let a boy do a mans job, because obviously a boy was left in charge of policing a server, which meant a responsibility he was not smart nor mature enough to manage. This server should stand as a horror example of how a server should not be managed.
Everyone really had fun on the server, and quite frankly, it’s sad that it has to end like this, but we were given no choice. GW is slowly losing it’s playerbase, and my newspost stands as a clear piece of evidence why. I can't imagine why ANYONE would set their feet on GW anymore.
I wish Image and Arrusol the best of luck on their new project, and Devn00b an STD.
See you on the LV server.
The past few weeks, Prophets and Seraphim have been fighting for the Guildwars server. There has been lots of good fighting, pie, trash talking and whatever follows good old pvp. Sadly, the feud has ended, not because of one side winning the battles (actually the side still standing has been taking a pretty severe pounding the last 2 weeks), but because a spoiled 12 year old child, Devn00b, happens to be a GM.
Over the past 2 days, most of the members in Prophets have been banned for protesting the corrupt GM, and most others have left in disgust of the way the server is being run.
Since most of us know some shady shit was going on, we began documenting the abuse, and the following will show you what actions made the population of a good server steadily drop to the point where it is embaressing.
Day 1:
(Newbie explanation inc). When you take cities, you have the option to place guards to protect your conquest. Now, there is a different price range on guards depending on what you want, and Prophets fortified Neriak as well as possible. A full set of guards like the ones we had, takes a large force of people, and a few hours of farming.
Usually, you have 1 cleric training the guards, a group tagging one of the guards and killing it. Then have the 2nd cleric pull the guards after number 1 dies, the group tags again and kills the guard, just keep repeating. This takes quite awhile and it’s pretty much impossible to fight them all at the same time.
Well what happens is 6 Seraphim zone into Neriak, and a wizard, yes a wizard, begins to tank our ENTIRE set of guards. The few people defending attacked the wizard but got the ”you cannot hit because he is invulnerable” message. Later, it turns out it was Devn00b playing a GM char.
Not only did he interfere with gameplay, show GM favoritism of the worst kind, he wasted the time we spent farming cash for the guard, the time we used to take the city, but he also had the nerve to lie about it afterwards, saying he didn’t play the wizard, and everything was ”legit”.
Here are the screenshots.....notice the warrizard with the tankage ability:
http://seriel.ggames.de/Bilder/EQ000007.jpg
http://seriel.ggames.de/Bilder/EQ000008.jpg
http://seriel.ggames.de/Bilder/EQ000010.jpg
Day 2:
After the Neriak incident a Prophets member deleted his char and another quit in protest. The rest of the guild began posting the screenshots we took on the boards. The thread and screenshots were repeatedly deleted, and the 4th time the post was made, it was allowed to stay for one hour. Then the thread was locked and the pics were deleted. Also, Devn00b gave us 3 guards as compensation, still saying nothing illegal happened..
The accused GM says nothings wrong, but he:
1. Repeatedly deleted treads with solid evidence SOMETHING was wrong (it’s not clear on the pictures that he is playing the char, but we have several screenshots of his guildmembers admitting it, but they won’t be posted to protect their accounts).
2. Reimbursed us with 3 guards. Why is it you would reimburse someone if nothing is wrong?
Frustrated that we can’t make our points on the board, the discussion moved ingame. We all suspected Dev of acting like a spoiled brat, but his reaction was so retarded it caught everyone off guard. He joined Prophets on his GM char, removed all members from the guild, handed all our cities to Seraphim and filled the guild with Seraphim alt chars. He then started banning our members, which were later lifted, because he probably realized he acted retarded.
More members left in protest, and the remaining Prophets members reformed under a new tag.
The same day, Devn00b joined Seraphim with his ranger equipped with GM gear. Seraphim then headed to Sol B to kill Naggy. What happened there i’ll leave up to one of the Seraphim members attending the raid (this is copied from the GW msgboards, if the post hasn’t been deleted yet):
” was a member of Seraphim for a few hours yesterday. In that time we killed Nagafen. Some interesting things happened on that raid. We had Manrider tank for us, who had 2800 hp unbuffed with his GM gear. He was critiing with his bow for 400. We failed Naggy the first time, and he offered to #summon us back. We all ran back but Victoria got a #summon. The second Naggy attempt Manrider popped a "Can of Whoop Ass" potion which added something like 900 to all his stats. Nonaag informed me that "This GM bullshit has been going on for a few days." To his credit he was tired of it, and agreed with me that it was bullshit and unfair.
I have seen the Ranger epics, Favio was able to link them for us in guildchat. One of them has Vengeance VII on it, the other has some type of bard effect. Gaining an epic will be hard to do. It will be a combination of pkp and questing. There will be a hard mob encounter to finish all epics. Seraphim has SoS Hero's in Neriak and Halas. When I was in Prophets I placed 4 heros and did not get one SoS. I even heard that SoS heros had been nerfed off the server, but we all know that Seraphim can't fight without full shaman buffs and haste.
From here I doubt I'll play much on this server, and I would advise most people to abandon it. Three hours in Seraphim confirmed what I had suspected since the day I joined GW. The majority of them are retards who can't get ahead without cheating. “
Day 3:
GW doesn’t have many rules. The official ruleset says that ninjalooting is fine, and it’s always been done. Last week, Prophets killed Gunther, and a member of Seraphim ninjalooted. Today, we thought we would return the favor, and we attended the raid and did indeed ninja loot Gunter, like it had been done to us a week before.
Suddenly Devn00b (He joined Seraphim yesterday remember? He happened to be maintanking Gunther) says Daefuin is getting banned for ninjalooting. Obviously, we are all shocked because it’s clearly stated in the ruleset that it’s legal. It was done to us a few days earlier. Well, it seems that a few days back, the rule was changed, it was broadcasted ONCE and the ruleset wasn’t updated. Basically, no one except the GM that made the broadcast knew, or had a chance to know the rules were changed.
Naturally, most of us, tired of several days of GM side cheating, began arguing with Devn00b. It ends with a few of us getting banned (myself included).
The gayness of his behavior goes beyond description, and it can only boggle the mind that a person like him enforces the rules. How can someone blatantly cheat with one hand and then ban people for cheating with the other? I think the lesson here is never let a boy do a mans job, because obviously a boy was left in charge of policing a server, which meant a responsibility he was not smart nor mature enough to manage. This server should stand as a horror example of how a server should not be managed.
Everyone really had fun on the server, and quite frankly, it’s sad that it has to end like this, but we were given no choice. GW is slowly losing it’s playerbase, and my newspost stands as a clear piece of evidence why. I can't imagine why ANYONE would set their feet on GW anymore.
I wish Image and Arrusol the best of luck on their new project, and Devn00b an STD.
See you on the LV server.