View Full Version : What the heck is wrong with ralloszek.net?
Scurry
03-10-2002, 10:35 AM
Getting a "parent directory" screen whenever I go there.
Any clue?
AD Nnuk
03-10-2002, 11:52 AM
... Datal has been brought down for scheduled maintenance.
Give him another week or two to calm down -- These emotional outbursts have never lasted for more than a few weeks.
Artfully Yours,
Nnuk
Artist of Death & Member of T.U.S. (http://www.tusrz.com)
Artful Death Gallery (http://www.artfuldeath.com)
PureKovak
03-10-2002, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by Scurry
Getting a "parent directory" screen whenever I go there.
Any clue?
that site has one of the worst web designs i've ever seen, and datal seems like an idiot, so its certainly possible he just fucked it up somehow but he more than likely deliberately took it down.
Mortaneous
03-10-2002, 02:25 PM
TEH FLOWERS KEEELED IT
Tassail
03-10-2002, 03:51 PM
He took it down because of those naughty, naughty Flowers. I asked him if he would be bringing it back up, though it's been days since he said he was going to...
I was personally disappointed that he threw such a hissy fit over something so obviously ridiculous, but I suppose one should never expect too much from someone running a site for free... Still, it's a pity to see all his work go to waste.
Scurry
03-10-2002, 05:57 PM
Well that pretty much sucks................
This site is usually only good for verbal lambastings. That site actually had some other redeeming qualities.
Takarae
03-10-2002, 07:06 PM
On the plus side, the mildly useful genera store is still accessable.
I'm curious. I wasn't around much before it went down, what did the flowers do that pissed him off so much? It seems like he's reserving a perfectly good domain name for a site with such inconsistencies.
Scurry
03-10-2002, 09:11 PM
A bunch of FOH kept crying about the site and telling Datal how he should run the site that he chooses to run for free, which seemed pretty odd to me, considering they could have just left and quit reading the site.
Then Datal started a survey to try and gauge if people felt the site should be kept up or not and, according to him, FOH linked the survey to their site or something, thereby rigging the voting to their favor. In turn, he banned all FOH from the site. I've been gone for a week, but that was the last I heard.
A couple of gay things about the situation....(1) FOH crying like a bunch of pansies about a site they can very well choose to avoid (2) Datal apparently becoming over-emotional and closing the site due to the actions of the aforementioned pansies. So, if there intent was to close the site, appears they won. Not sure if that's what Datal intended, but rather what he has achieved.
Tassail
03-10-2002, 09:24 PM
Exactly, Scurry, though I think that sort of thing was what the Flowers had in mind all along (they'd been banned previously, threatened with perma-ban.. etc.). I normally appreciate some of the FoH humor (when it's done well - there are obviously a few "key" figures in the organization amidst a great deal of.. less entertaining members), and can't even say that this was really their fault... After all, as you said, Datal seriously went over the edge on this one.
Disappointing that he did so, but not alot we can do about it at this point.. unless, of course, you'd like to email him requesting that he put the OOC board etc. back up. I've already done so, and if more do.. well, then perhaps he will. He's easily influenced by simple requests / criticisms, it seems...
His addy: slinar@ralloszek.net
It'd be great if a few people could email him -- hopefully with positive feedback this time...
AD Nnuk
03-11-2002, 03:13 AM
This is NOT the first time it has happened and it is not likely to be the last.
Now here's what happened in the last hour or so of the RZ.Net's OOC board...
Having heard of the "Flower Bannings" I dropped by the RZ board to read up on it.
Sheesh... Every post -- in every thread I saw -- written by someone with a Flowery name had been edited/removed.
That was a little nuts, yes, but it gets better. Datal had gone so far as to mention his intent of banning folks with a public email address (ie: Hotmail, Yahoo, etc) in order to assure a Flower Free environment.
This prompted me to comment -- Here's the post in it's entirety:
======
Subject: .....
Click Me! (http://boards.gamers.com/messages/message_view.asp?name=rzooc&id=zxhjr)
Artfully Yours,
Nnuk
etc, etc, etc
======
I believe that was the last post on the board -- I might have missed another as I had gone to the store right after posting -- as the site (and the OOC board) were brought down within the hour.
Now listen up, folks -- You are not going to get anywhere by kissing his ass.
Sure it might prod him to reopen everything a bit sooner... But, and I am speaking from experience here, it'll just be a bandaid on a bulletwound since it'll happen again in a week/month/year/whatever.
In closing.. I'd also like to point out that -- were it not for folks challenging the crazy ideas on board moderation held by "The Clique" (what the RZ.Net regulars were refered to a couple of years ago) most of the people reading this would not have been tolerated there to begin with.
Artfully Yours,
Nnuk
Artist of Death & Member of T.U.S. (http://www.tusrz.com)
Artful Death Gallery (http://www.artfuldeath.com)
soupypoopy
03-11-2002, 10:22 AM
I'll happily admit to helping teach Billy Bob Strader a little bit about happiness. The cuntslime was far too emotional to be running a supposedly all-Rallos message board. He is, as others have said, emotionally unequipped for it.
Go ahead and write your soppy, ass-kissing "Billy please come back please oh please" missives to the over-emotional redneck. It's exactly the attention he craved when he essentially told the community:
"WELL IT'S MY FOOTBALL AND IF YOU WANT TO PLAY YOU HAVE TO LET ME WIN. I'M GOING HOME NOW."
http://www.galaxymall.com/books/yokiddo/images/spoiled.jpg
Obviously not the best way to endear people to you. He can go impale himself on a plunger left carelessly in a toilet.
PS: If Scurry had a fucking point, I would respond to it. All he's doing is complaining about complaining, which seems hypocritical, to say the least. But I do need to correct one error. He seems to be saying that we're all pansies, but it should be noted that while all pansies are flowers, not all flowers are pansies. Some of us are tulips, roses, and daffodils. Sunflowers especially.
PPS: Cuz I know he's reading it -- Billy Bob, you're a homophobic redneck crybaby. Fuck you.
Aurore
03-11-2002, 12:18 PM
I haven't been following the developments of this affair closely, and it's only thanks to Nnuk that I came in touch with this thread. I must say I had somewhat suspected the reasons that lead to the closure of the site, since it's not the first time this happens.
All I can say is that I am hardly surprised... might I point out that this (http://boards.gamers.com/messages/overview.asp?name=rzooc) board never closed down, despite people leaving it. ;)
Oh and what about the clique? I much prefer the term nazi it has far greater sex-appeal.
Love,
Aurore
coyoteblack
03-11-2002, 12:51 PM
auroe have I eer said joo is cwazzzzy? if not allow me to say it now!! nazi's blah now I.R.A has uber sex appeal(bet ya cant guess which country my family came form)
Aurore
03-11-2002, 01:02 PM
hmm ho... Ireland? :D
In any case, I think the sex appeal comes from the black leather boots. Maybe the tight black leather skirt also. I guess men get their kicks from women in uniforms the same way we do.
Ah well those were the days...
Aurore
coyoteblack
03-11-2002, 01:20 PM
errr your French right? they were there for a we bit of time so i you were WAy older you could have been a happy camper(that was semi-sarcasim I know what they did to france was berry berry bad go far as to sa they were un smurfy)
Scurry
03-11-2002, 05:42 PM
Here's the point I seem to be missing...........
If you fags don't like the board, why waste your time visiting to post complaints, why not just avoid it?
Hmmmm......."I don't get things my way, so I'm going to piss and moan and rig a survey to get what I want"......
Bunch of ninnies. You clowns deserve no respect.
On another note, Cougr pissing and moaning in So Ro about some enchanter last night for about 10 minutes left a pretty poor impression on AD, I might add.
soupypoopy
03-11-2002, 06:53 PM
Scurry's response, summarized: "Don't like it? Just leave."
It's not that simple. When someone says they're going to try to run the message board for our SERVER then they need to show that they are adequately representing the interests of the SERVER, not just the mod's little clique. Billybob was not prepared or was unwilling to hear alternate viewpoints -- therefore the site that was INTENDED to be for all of RZ was instead a sham.
And you know how much us PVPers love exposing the bullshit antics of antis. You get it now, Scurry? "Don't like it? Just leave" isn't an adequate response when someone is trying to pull a sham over on a community.
I'm sure if someone pisses in the community pool, you just leave without complaint. You don't tell the kid's parents that they should teach him some bowel control when he's in public, right?
I'm sure when someone lets loose a juicy, steamy fart in a crowded elevator you get off on the very next floor without grimacing, even though you really needed to go to floor 30. You don't glare at the asshole who's sitting in the corner giggling about it, right?
I'm sure you would also fail to complain if the police harrassed you for being a black in a white neighborhood. I'm sure you would "just leave" without complaint. You don't contact the NAACP, you don't write a letter to the editor. You take your abuse and shut the fuck up, because you're black, right?
Sadly, on Rallos Zek PVP enthusiasts are the minority thanks to some massive bluebie tendencies (can't blame the bluebies too much -- Verant designed this game for PVE, not PVP). So we should just shut up and leave the server to those who will all agree with eachother on message boards, right?
It's our duty to not "just leave" when some redneck domain name squatter puts up a site "for the community" that actually turns out to be a site for only that portion of the community that agrees with him? We should just leave when he turns into a complete prick and bans every viewpoint that disagrees with his, right?
And yet here you are, scurry, in a thread that you obviously disagree with, whining. Why don't you "just leave"? NO wait -- don't answer that. It was a rhetorical question. I don't expect opposing viewpoints to "just leave." What a fucking childish crock of shit.
Scurry
03-11-2002, 09:52 PM
Hey, dipshit. That was a pretty piss poor argument. For some reason, not sure why, I expected more from you. Guess I won't next time.
Let me clarify your folly for you, son........
First and foremost, the site is run by Datal, not by Verant, not by Sony. As such, he is free to express whatever personal opinions he may have and display whatever lack of emotional control he so desires, however unappealing it may be at times. I could be sorely mistaken, and if I am, this point is moot, but I don't recall anywhere seeing Datal saying that he represented all of Rallos Zek. He provided a site for players of our server to come, post, sell and debate. As with any site or establishment controlled by an individual, the whims and desires of the proprietor are likely to become evident in the product. Summary here, the site was Datal's site, to do with as he pleased, not the "Official" Rallos Zek site run by Verant, Sony or some other recognized entity.
Secondly, your examples, the pool, elevator and neighborhood, are moot. Think a bit harder next time and you might be able to come up with some appropriate examples. Listen up, boy. Your examples would be more accurate if they stated............
-- "If you're in your neighbor's pool and he pisses in it, do you leave or complain about how he handles himself in his pool?"
-- "If you're in an apartment building elevator with the building landlord and he farts, do you complain about how he handles himself in the elevator?"
-- Your third one is simply too bad of an example to respond to. Nice try for some sympathy with the race card, dipshit.
Thirdly, who said I don't agree with this thread? I find this thread very entertaining, or I would not come here and spend considerable time to post a message. Why would I leave a thread that I consider entertaining? Once again, nice attempt to misconstrue an example to make your case. Most times, that's the sign of a poor argument. I don't think there's any doubt in this case.
Here's a novel idea since you're so adamant on ensuring the appropriate representation of our server......start your own site, dickhead. Well, wait, that may not work, I'm sure someone out there would disagree with you and then you could no longer be considered the "official voice" of Rallos Zek. Kind of a Catch 22 isn't it?
Here's another novel idea. Consider shutting the fuck up more often. You're just plain stupid.
soupypoopy
03-12-2002, 01:47 AM
Haha!
"Just plain stupid"
Can someone please make that my message board custom title, please?
Before I respond to your so-called argument, Slurpy, I must say that I'm really hurt when you call me dickhead. I did not ask God for a penis-shaped head. I did not ask him to make reproductive fluid instead of hair sprout from the top of my bald pate. I hate it when I go outside in the winter without a hat and suddenly I look like a witchdoctor got ahold of me.
And then to top it all off I get treated mean by nice people like you. It's been happening to me since childhood, and frankly I'm sick of it.
http://www.witek.dircon.co.uk/silly/dickhead.jpg
Anyways, to respond to some of your so-called "points:"
First and foremost, the site is run by Datal, not by Verant, not by Sony. As such, he is free to express whatever personal opinions he may have and display whatever lack of emotional control he so desires, however unappealing it may be at times.
Not at all true. When you take your football to the field to play with the local kids, you are expected to have enough sportsmanship not to run home with the ball when the other team scores.
"If you're in your neighbor's pool and he pisses in it, do you leave or complain about how he handles himself in his pool?"
Yes! Defecating or urinating in a pool is a disgusting thing to do, a health hazard, and an affront to your "guests." Billybob pissed in the pool too much becuase he thought he was entitled to it. What a fuckin' twat, eh? Fact is, some behavior just shouldn't be tolerated, no matter how much you consider yourself an "owner."
"If you're in an apartment building elevator with the building landlord and he farts, do you complain about how he handles himself in the elevator?"
Yes. I tell him he's a fuckin' jerk. I don't have to kiss some landlord's ass just because he owns a goddamned building. (You also obviously have no fucking concept about how hard it is to actually evict someone before his lease is up.) There are standards of human decency. You seem to think that he who owns the goods can treat others however he likes. That is not at all true, especially not true when you put something out there as a public service.
And so your meager argument falls about as flat as your limp-dicked attempts to bait me. ;) Try again -- you get no points for trolling this time around, tyro.
Scurry
03-12-2002, 02:39 AM
"And so your meager argument falls about as flat as your limp-dicked attempts to bait me. Try again -- you get no points for trolling this time around, tyro." - FOH Gimp
Jesus, man. Why waste your time even posting that? That was pretty weak, dude. I'm sure you realize that. Nice attempt at deflecting your revealed idiocy with an intro of attempted humor.
"When you take your football to the field to play with the local kids, you are expected to have enough sportsmanship not to run home with the ball when the other team scores." - FOH Gimp
Who has the expectations? Datal? No. You? Yes. Sounds like your problem not his. He can run home whenever he pleases. Maybe you shouldn't expect so much. Again, your problem, not his. Quit crying, son.
"Defecating or urinating in a pool is a disgusting thing to do, a health hazard, and an affront to your "guests." Billybob pissed in the pool too much becuase he thought he was entitled to it. What a fuckin' twat, eh? Fact is, some behavior just shouldn't be tolerated, no matter how much you consider yourself an "owner." - FOH Gimp
Disgusting to who? Datal? No. You? Yes. Solution: Get the fuck out of his pool and go home. Again, your problem, not his.
"(You also obviously have no fucking concept about how hard it is to actually evict someone before his lease is up.)" - FOH Gimp
You are correct, I don't. Can't say I have ever been evicted, nor do I run an apartment building. Thanks for the advice, though, Schneider. Fix my toilet while you're at it, bitch.
"There are standards of human decency. You seem to think that he who owns the goods can treat others however he likes. That is not at all true, especially not true when you put something out there as a public service." - FOH Gimp
Whose standards? Datals? No. Yours? Yes. Again, your problem, not his. Public Service? Who said it was a "public service"? Who the hell decides what public it services anyhow? Who decides how it will service that public? You? No. Datal? Yes. Do you control "public service" announcements on TV? Do you run television programming to tell me at 5pm on a Sunday that the local Elks Club is having a moose fucking contest? No. You don't. The TV station does.
Based on your further demonstrated stupidity, I amend my "just plain stupid" comment and bestow on you the title of "full blown idiot".
Enjoy wallowing in your idiocy, boy.
soupypoopy
03-12-2002, 07:38 AM
Mods -- please amend my custom title request: FULL BLOWN IDIOT for me, please.
Scurry -- if you find his behavior acceptable, I'd imagine that people walk ALL OVER YOU.
I doubt you actually think it's acceptable to fart in a crowded elevator (no matter if one owns the elevator or not), shit in a pool, and so on. What's happened here is that you are stuck playing the other side of the argument long after that argument was shown to be absurd. Sucks to be stuck in devils advocate mode, don't it?
u = teh loose
v = teh winar
Scurry
03-12-2002, 08:32 AM
Great response, man. You really rebuked me on that one.
As far as whose shown what, you've shown nothing other than the fact that you are an idiot with a terrible argument, who has a poor time defending what he alleges to believe in.
Later, chump.
Mortaneous
03-12-2002, 08:59 AM
RZ.net sucked. "Billy" ran the site like a spoiled child's sandbox. He should have spent more time updating that ugly site instead of mulling over posts to delete what he didnt like. He had Merry Christmas on the front page till February. Good riddens.
Anyone could set up a public ooc board like Aloura has, and someone could easily make a trade board and publicize it.
AD Nnuk
03-12-2002, 09:01 AM
... In the ways of proper pool poop management.
I would, however, appreciate an elaboration of the following comment:
"On another note, Cougr pissing and moaning in So Ro about some enchanter last night for about 10 minutes left a pretty poor impression on AD, I might add."
Which enchanter would you be refering to?
The only non-AD chanter in the reports I got regarding the evening in Ro was grouped with Coug -- Hardly reason for 10 minutes of bitching and moaning... Unless it was about Clarity Overdose. ;-)
Artfully Yours,
Nnuk
Artist of Death & Member of T.U.S. (http://www.tusrz.com)
Artful Death Gallery (http://www.artfuldeath.com)
Scurry
03-12-2002, 11:08 AM
Datal ran his site how he pleased. Key word there is "his". Crucial point that FOH seems to be missing for whatever reason.
Not sure on the enchanter's name, Nnuk. Was not someone he was grouped with, rather someone he was fighting and kept pissing and moaning about how they wouldn't stand still and take a DD. Was pretty pathetic.
soupypoopy
03-12-2002, 12:42 PM
Ownership does not entitle you to be a bastard, especially when it comes to services that you are providing for public use.
That is something neither scurry nor billybob understand.
Scurry, you're wasting my time now. When you feel like posting something that doesn't make me repeat myself, write back, kk? thx u.
coyoteblack
03-12-2002, 01:40 PM
"my bat my ball my rules" We used to say that when we played stick ball way back when"
It seems that is scurry's(or is it scurries) argument. I pretty much agree with him, if we did not like it back then we put our money together and paid for those blue stick-balls and we could always find a stick on garbage night and put the black electric tape on it and have fun "ELSEWHERE".
But on the flip side we in america have a right to free speach
Me thinks soupy is just trying enforce it. prob is soupy it his his site his money for the server (or what ever fees he incurs).
Maybe if he added a disclamer this is for MOST or RZ.NET(his choice of of exactly who "MOST" is" it wold clarify things somewhat.)
ps I wish we had spell check as much as I try my spelling is
Mortaneous
03-12-2002, 03:16 PM
Lets be honest. If anyone of you, including my good friend Scurry, had been a victim of Datal's little bitch attacks, you would more than likely been on the same side of the fence.
I got tired of having posts deleted when I would flame Asslain or some other dolt. Its a website, not a kiss ass club. He started a little netwar with Vova and lost, so he packed up his toys and went home. Good riddance.
Seems as though I still have access. But I'm sure Asslains little taddle tale bitch ass will take care of that.
Busybody
03-12-2002, 03:49 PM
..were not the strongest, but Scurry your only response to him was, "that was a weak argument SON."
If someone says it's wrong to kill, I could say, "Weak argument Son!"
That doesn't make me right, it makes ME without a response. Not to mention the only people I've ever heard call others "son" are under 16 and quite obviously nervous about their masculinity. Just like all the little preppie's near where I live who listen to gangsta rap and pretend to understand what it's like to live in danger. Then they go inside for tea
Soupy, however flawed his logic is, is correct. It's Ralloszek.net, a place for rallos people. However Datal or whoever decided to make it a little "golly it's about me hooray!" parade. Rename is Datal.net and nobody but his friends will go. Problem solved. :rolleyes:
Scurry
03-12-2002, 04:14 PM
My, my, there's some bag logic in these posts. Where to begin.....
"Ownership does not entitle you to be a bastard, especially when it comes to services that you are providing for public use." - FOH Gimp
So am I to understand that you, as the non-owner, is the decider of the level of entitlement of the owner? Gee, that makes sense. People can be whatever they choose to be and their right to do so is only more inflated when they are the owner. Is it that hard to understand? Tell someone how to do something all you want, that's obiously your right, as it's their right not to do it or to do it differently. You appear to be missing a fundamental gene that understands logic. Most idiots have this disorder.
"Scurry, you're wasting my time now. When you feel like posting something that doesn't make me repeat myself, write back, kk? thx u." - FOH Gimp
If I am wasting your time and you realized that, didn't you consciously make a decision to waste more time writing that sentence above? Clever! Let me refresh, son. The crux of our debate ceased around the time you posted this........
"I doubt you actually think it's acceptable to fart in a crowded elevator (no matter if one owns the elevator or not), shit in a pool, and so on. What's happened here is that you are stuck playing the other side of the argument long after that argument was shown to be absurd. Sucks to be stuck in devils advocate mode, don't it?" - FOH Gimp
That paragraph pretty much sums up this whole debate. You fail to understand logical thought. You have grasped onto a tangent of the debate and completely missed the entire jist of the argument. Tell me where I said it's acceptable to fart in an elevator? Tell me where I said it and then tell me where that was ever the point of the argument? You can't, because I didn't. The point of the argument was not whether I think it's acceptable. It has nothing to do with my perceived acceptance of the event. It has everything to do with what Datal has a right, as the facilitator of that site to do. Someone can do something that is acceptable to no one but themselves, but does that mean they don't have a right to do it? There's little point arguing with someone who has no idea what the argument is about. But I will continue, nonetheless, as I enjoy chiding you.
"But on the flip side we in america have a right to free speach
Me thinks soupy is just trying enforce it. prob is soupy it his his site his money for the server (or what ever fees he incurs). Maybe if he added a disclamer this is for MOST or RZ.NET(his choice of of exactly who "MOST" is" it wold clarify things somewhat.)" - Coyoteblack
First of all, free speech, as espoused in our Constitution, has barriers in the domain of private ownership. Secondly, I don't recall seeing anywhere on that site a sign that read "REPRESENTING EVERY PERSON ON RALLOS ZEK". Must have missed that one.
"Lets be honest. If anyone of you, including my good friend Scurry, had been a victim of Datal's little bitch attacks, you would more than likely been on the same side of the fence." - Mortaneous
As a matter of fact, Datal has deleted several of my posts, including at least one about Ashlain. So, as I have been impacted, should I let emotion supersede logical thought and alter the root of the issue? Emotion can't change the fact that it's his site and he can do whatever he pleases. Emotion can change the fact of whether or not you decide to piss and moan about it, but the root of the argument remains unchanged. Emotion and logic seldomly go hand in hand.
"Soups arguments..were not the strongest, but Scurry your only response to him was, "that was a weak argument SON."
If someone says it's wrong to kill, I could say, "Weak argument Son!"
That doesn't make me right, it makes ME without a response. Not to mention the only people I've ever heard call others "son" are under 16 and quite obviously nervous about their masculinity. Just like all the little preppie's near where I live who listen to gangsta rap and pretend to understand what it's like to live in danger. Then they go inside for tea" - Busybody
They weren't even really arguments. They were emotional, crybaby outbursts as far as I'm concerned. As we have seen, Soupy has clung to tangents of an issue in a futile attempt to leach out some more pissing and moaning and has failed to address any core issues. My summation that his argument was weak came only after one of his extremely poor rebuttals that addressed nothing I had previously mentioned and then distorted the issue to better suit his poor rationale. There was nothing left to respond to, other than to express a general opinion about his entire, sorry state.
Secondly, thanks for the observation on the usage of the word "son". very helpful. Not.
That should pretty well do it. Continue your pissing and moaning if you like, Soupy. I always get a good chuckle from your attempts.
Idiot.
PureKovak
03-12-2002, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Scurry
Here's the point I seem to be missing...........
If you fags don't like the board, why waste your time visiting to post complaints, why not just avoid it?
Hmmmm......."I don't get things my way, so I'm going to piss and moan and rig a survey to get what I want"......
Scurry, I haven't bothered to read your latest multi-page reply to this thread, and i seriously doubt most people will (learn how to quote people properly, idiot) but why don't you take your own advice? you realize the people you are arguing with in FOH are half your age? shouldn't this tell you something? do your RL friends know what you do with your free time? do you have any RL friends? 29 years old and this is what you do every night?
you seem to be arguing just for the sake of arguing, and in this case you've been proven wrong. datal is a little baby and took his site down because he couldn't handle criticism. anyway, you need to find a new hobby, because arguing on the internet is like the special olympics, and i'm sure you know where this is going :o
Busybody
03-12-2002, 06:22 PM
I wasn't trying to be helpful. I was pointing out that using the word over and over simply makes it appear that you are desperate for anything that will make you look superior. i.e. calling someone son.
Oh yes, and I had a junior high flashback when you said, "not."
Go Vanilla, kick it one time.
Scurry
03-12-2002, 06:36 PM
Hey cunt, listen up.
"(learn how to quote people properly, idiot)" - Cunt
I could care less how to quote properly at this point, that would be for your benefit, not mine.
"but why don't you take your own advice? you realize the people you are arguing with in FOH are half your age?" - Cunt
Sorry, I don't see an age indicator next to these posts. Must have missed that as well.
"29 years old and this is what you do every night?" - Cunt
Sorry, last time I checked the sun was still out and I was still at work killing time.
"you seem to be arguing just for the sake of arguing, and in this case you've been proven wrong." - Cunt
Not sure how someone who doesn't understand the main topic of the argument could possibly win it, but I guess logic works like that where you are from. Clever strategy!
"you need to find a new hobby, because arguing on the internet is like the special olympics, and i'm sure you know where this is going" - Cunt
Did I just hear the pot call the kettle black?
"Oh yes, and I had a junior high flashback when you said, "not."
Go Vanilla, kick it one time." - Cunt
Word to your mother.
Try not posting again until you are capable of communicating something that makes half sense. Silly fuck.
coyoteblack
03-12-2002, 06:52 PM
Good point on hte private sector part there scurry. You forgot to mention I said I agree with ya.
eek you 29 ill be 32 4/5/ I guess i am not the only old fugger here!@@@ weeeeeeee
comeing from the marines way back when i know what t is like to have no freddom of speach at all it iis not fun but if it is his site we have no right to complan how he chooses to operate HIS OWN site.
Scurry
03-12-2002, 06:57 PM
Sorry, Coyote, I was aware that you were agreeing, just had to comment.
There's actually a lot of old fuckers on this board and in this game. More than a lot of folks would have you believe.
coyoteblack
03-12-2002, 07:01 PM
np bro I REALLYhope sliner/datel bring back the site though it might be cencored but you usually get a decent groown up conversation here and there.
soupypoopy
03-12-2002, 09:31 PM
You're grasping at straws here Scurry.
You said: "son"
What you meant: I'm older, therefore I must be superior.
The truth of the matter: You know nothing about my age, and even if you were older, it doesn't say much -- I pass bums that are older than me on the way to work every day. Most of them talk like you do: "Can you spare a quarter, son?"
You said: "cunt"
What you meant: You fuckin' bitches ain't got shit on me. I have a DICK and that makes me better.
The truth of the matter: Most of the women on this board could tear you a new asshole, physically and verbally.
Your ad-hominen attacks are pretty worthless, but when all you've got is a blunt weapon for an intellect, everything looks like something that deserves to be bludgeoned, eh?
Scurry
03-12-2002, 09:44 PM
Dude, your responses only get more and more pathetic. I knew you were a moron after about 2 of them, you can stop now. I understand.
No one said a word about your age. You drew the inference between "son" and any assumption on your age. Talk about grasping at straws. Nice example to back up your post. Clever!
Your inference about "cunt" is equally as bad. Interesting how you tell me what I meant. Just like you told Datal how to run HIS site.
You just don't get it man. All of your attempts to come off as some clever witted, intellectual with a twist of humor on the side have served to do nothing but make you look like more and more of a dumbass.
Go back to posting crude jokes and foolish photoshop creations on your website. You're a fucking idiot.
soupypoopy
03-12-2002, 10:47 PM
No.
:)
blingg
03-12-2002, 11:47 PM
I know its easy to get caught up in the heat of the argument but..
scurry: nice try silly fuck
soupy: you're the stupid fuck you fucking fuck fuck
scurry: nice try you fucking moron
soupy: blah blah blah
scurry: blah blah blah
etc for 2pages? take a look at it.
Nobody really cares.
Scurry
03-13-2002, 12:59 AM
You cared enough to post a message telling us that no one cares. You apparently also cared enough to read through the messages.
What were you saying again?
Jimmee
03-13-2002, 04:51 PM
Go back to complaining about the ancient cyclops and the people who cheat to bring down the price of Jboots Scurry, you almost had a decent arguement with that one.
Scurry
03-13-2002, 05:28 PM
Go back to shutting the hell up. Thanks.
There's more than a decent argument here, as there was in that thread as well. Take some elementary reading classes and you might understand a few parts of it.
Trayia
03-13-2002, 07:09 PM
I liked going to Ralloszek.net. Hopefully Datal will get the board back up and running.
Trayia
Busybody
03-13-2002, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by Scurry
Dude, your responses only get more and more pathetic. I knew you were a moron after about 2 of them, you can stop now. I understand.
Translation : I don't understand.
No one said a word about your age. You drew the inference between "son" and any assumption on your age. Talk about grasping at straws. Nice example to back up your post. Clever!
Translation : Ha ha you fool! The son is what gives my chiseled 110 pounds a tan!
You just don't get it man. All of your attempts to come off as some clever witted, intellectual with a twist of humor on the side have served to do nothing but make you look like more and more of a dumbass.
Translation : I just don't get it man. All of your attempts to come off as some clever witted, intellectual with a twist of humor on the side have served to do nothing but make you look like more and more mentally superior and in control of your anger than I.
Scurry
03-13-2002, 09:56 PM
I need translations for your translations. That was pretty stupid.
Busybody
03-14-2002, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Scurry
I need translations for your translations. That was pretty stupid.
Translation : If I don't say it, I don't understand it, so to cover up my ignorance, I'll call all your posts... STUPID! yeah! Hey, who needs a little thing like LOGIC when you have conviction!
Busybody
03-14-2002, 12:09 AM
~nt~
Scurry
03-14-2002, 01:43 AM
If I don't say what? You speak in jibberish.
Busybody
03-14-2002, 03:42 AM
Originally posted by Scurry
If I don't say what? You speak in jibberish.
My response to this will simple be-->>loud laughter.
Hey sorry, but it's all I can do right now. :p
soupypoopy
03-14-2002, 11:04 AM
Jesus, Scurry.
This is basic English we're talking about here. Oh wait... I know ... Lemme try one more translation for you:
Iph I d0n'7 54y i7, I d0n'7 und3r574nd i7, 50 70 c0v3r up my ign0r4nc3, I'11 c411 411 j00r p0575... 14m3! y34h! H3y, wh0 n33d5 4 1i7713 7hing 1ik3 10GIC wh3n j00 h4v3 c0nvic7i0n!
You should just cut your losses and sit on your hands next time you think about demonstrating your idiocy once again -- you're beginning to look like the third stooge round these parts. (Icee, Scurry and Arakan.... hmm... nice ring to it.)
Scurry
03-14-2002, 12:09 PM
Dude, you've long since claimed the role of third stooge. I don't think there's any room left in that posse.
You're supposed to be the leader of some guild yet you're one step short of a blithering idiot. A leader should have some measure of self respect and some capacity to carry on a sensible debate. You possess neither and have long since been proven an ass. That's got to be demoralizing.
As far as you, Busybody, you have contradicted just about everything you initially purported to stand for in this thread. There's little use debating with you as you have no idea what you believe in. One method of solving your issue may be to shut the hell up. You might save face.
soupypoopy
03-14-2002, 01:30 PM
Wait a minute now --
You need to get your story straight, hypocrite. You wrote:
"you're one step short of a blithering idiot"
But earlier, you wrote:
Based on your further demonstrated stupidity, I amend my "just plain stupid" comment and bestow on you the title of "full blown idiot".
So which is it, hmm? If I'm "one step short" then I'm not a "full blown idiot" am I? Please make up your mind soon, as the mods are getting sick of my custom title requests.
Now -- you'd think that someone with SO MUCH TROUBLE keeping his story straight would not take others to task for allegedly exhibiting the same behavior, yet that's what you do here:
As far as you, Busybody, you have contradicted just about everything you initially purported to stand for in this thread. There's little use debating with you as you have no idea what you believe in.
Blithering idiot indeed.
Love,
Soupypoopy. I may be incontinent, but at least I'm not inconsistent.
PS: If you actually respond to this in the way that I think you are going to respond to this, I will laugh my left nut off. You are seriously lacking comprehension.
Scurry
03-14-2002, 02:03 PM
Hey fool, read again and don't give yourself so much credit next time.....
"You're one step short of a blithering idiot" means that you don't even have the capacity to be considered a blithering idiot - (i.e. you are worse than a blithering idiot). Don't give yourself so much credit next time, clown.
Same as if I told you that you were striving for adequacy. Means you're not yet there.
Thanks for verifying if there was any question.
Mortaneous
03-14-2002, 04:01 PM
This is a really stupid argument.
Scurry
03-14-2002, 05:00 PM
Half of it is.
Busybody
03-14-2002, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Scurry
As far as you, Busybody, you have contradicted just about everything you initially purported to stand for in this thread. There's little use debating with you as you have no idea what you believe in. One method of solving your issue may be to shut the hell up. You might save face.
Oh please enlighten me as to what I initially believed in, and have apparently now lost faith in.
What do I care about "saving face." This is a game. I don't care how people look at me. I play the game to the best of my ability. I consider the fact that as a 51 warrior I was let in to ToV unguilded and not in a sect is testament to how I play. I only care for the respect of those that *I* care for. All else is ashes and dust.
Noobe
03-15-2002, 03:50 PM
This is thread is stupid :(
Jimmee
03-15-2002, 04:16 PM
This is thread is stupid :(
You talk like that's a bad thing :)
Lovaelihn
03-15-2002, 05:34 PM
Hell... I've been stupid for years, and people still hang out with me if I pay 'em.
Trayia
03-15-2002, 09:15 PM
/laugh
Thslodar
03-20-2002, 02:11 AM
Soupypoupy;
Simple answer here...suck it up and move on. Dont like Ralloszek.net? Dont post there. Pissed off Datal doesn't run it the way you think it should be run? Buy the site.
Dont wanna buy the site...FUCK OFF : )
He ownes the thing...its that simple...its not public...the Constitution does NOT apply.
Don't agree with the above? Move to China or Cuba....the last pathetic Communist states. Capitalism won.....guess you were still in the womb at the time.
Mortaneous
03-20-2002, 09:11 AM
Thanks for chiming in assclown.
soupypoopy
03-20-2002, 10:52 AM
Hey Thslodar --
Obviously you clicked onto the last page of this topic without actually reading any of what has been posted.
This is a case of MISREPRESENTATION. If he wants to use the "ralloszek.net" domain, then he needs to represent the community, not just half of it, or he's squatting the domain for disingenuous purposes. I would care less if it were called "OpinionsofaFuckingRedneckNamedBillyBob.com," but it's not. He's advancing his bullshit bluebie agenda via the use of that domain, and it's dishonest.
Vallidus
03-20-2002, 01:49 PM
Soopoo's got a point there :P
Trayia
03-20-2002, 01:52 PM
So what exactly happened to piss Datal off?
Trayia
Scurry
03-20-2002, 08:20 PM
Soupy's got a point, my ass. Soupy has been demonstrated to be an idiot throughout this thread. I thought we had concluded that and ended this issue. Apparently not.
What the fuck is this.....?
"If he wants to use the "ralloszek.net" domain, then he needs to represent the community, not just half of it, or he's squatting the domain for disingenuous purposes."
He doesn't "NEED" to do anything, you silly fucker. He apparently owns that domain and can do whatever the hell he wants to do with it. You wanted it to represent RZ? You should have bought it first you dumb fuck.
If I buy the domain "soupypoopyisastupidmotherfucker.com", do I have any obligation to have that site contain any reference to you or your stupidity? Hell no. I can sell merchandise, post horoscopes, post sports scores, whatever the fuck I want to do with it, because I bought it.
Although I would have no obligation to post anything related to the namesake, I probably couldn't resists since you provide us with so much material that justifies it.
Your argument is the weakest shit I have heard in some time. Just drop it, dude. You're a fucking moron, we've already made that clear.
Busybody
03-20-2002, 08:35 PM
Your only argument is that his argument is weak. All you say is his posts are stupid and do NOT point out why. I typed in ralloszek.net one time never having been there. I expected fully to see a site that was about rallos zek. That's not what I got and it is misleading.
I admit, it's his site and he can do what he wants with his site. But if he's going to do what he does, he needs to rename it.
And lastly, Soup has not proven himself an idiot except to you and one of your friends. /applaud
He comes off as literate in his posts, even if he's just making stupid jokes, whereas you seem to be using words to "seem" intelligent. Give me a break, "jesting material?" Quit trying to impress people who already have formed an opinion based on fact and not what you try to present.
Scurry
03-20-2002, 08:59 PM
My only argument is that his is weak? OK, so what are you "admitting" to in your second paragraph? Might you be admitting to the point of my argument? Way to contradict yourself, assface. Clever!
"it's his site and he can do what he wants with his site. But if he's going to do what he does, he needs to rename it."
Didn't you just tell us that it's his site and he can do what he wants? If that's the case, why does he NEED to do anything? You just told us he can do what he wants.
Sorry if "jesting material" was over your head. You can find a dictionary at webster.com if you are able to navigate to that site. Most people would understand what that phrase meant, I am guessing. But alas, you're just another idiot, like Soupy. You know what they say about birds of a feather. Ride that jock some more, wench. At least one person thinks you're not a douche bag.
Here's a tip. Think through what you are intending to post. If it doesn't make sense, consider shutting the fuck up.
Busybody
03-21-2002, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by Scurry
Here's a tip. Think through what you are intending to post. If it doesn't make sense, consider shutting the fuck up.
Now, if you take your own advice we'll never see another post from you. :(
The fact is scurry you are like the typical board troll who only quotes what they want to respond to, even if it means chopping up sentences so that they don't say what they originally meant.
Case in point.
It's his site, and if he continues what he wants to do (which is fine with me) then he needs a name that doesn't seem to represent rallos. Because it in fact, does not. I fully admit he can do what he wants with the site. But don't take a name that is that broad base when his thought is so narrow.
Last, I don't know Soupwhateverhisnameis and I don't like most of FoH. I'm not agreeing with him because I like him, or know him (which I don't) but because he is stating a point and you are letting your petty anger get the best of you.
p.s. Jesting is hardly above my head, I simply do not feel the need to use words that are out of place in a forum, or clever euphamisms (look it up since you clearly love the dictionary) to make myself look intelligent.
Scurry
03-21-2002, 01:26 AM
I make every effort to respond to all issues raised, which I have done throughout this thread. I may choose to quote in instances in which I wish to bring special attention to an especially assinine comment. The lack of a quote does not mean the issue has not been addressed. Most garden variety idiots can recognize that.
Look, here's an especially assinine comment, a quote would go nicely here...........
"It's his site, and if he continues what he wants to do (which is fine with me) then he needs a name that doesn't seem to represent rallos. Because it in fact, does not. I fully admit he can do what he wants with the site. But don't take a name that is that broad base when his thought is so narrow."
You said it's fine if he continues what he wants to do, eh? If he wants to continue to run his site with the name ralloszek.net, your logic follows that that would be fine with you. But, your last sentence contradicts that statement. And you continue to use the word "NEED" following sentences in which you indicate that he can do what he wants. You speak in jibberish.
"Anger"? Who has anger? I am by no means angry. This thread amuses me, makes me chuckle and brings me good humor. Anger me? Hardly.
And I would love to know how the word "jesting" is "out of place" in this forum. How can something be out of place in a forum that is wide open to be molded and filled with whatever nature of prose or propaganda it's users desire?
Like I said, if you think through your intended message and it doesn't make sense, consider shutting the fuck up. Thanks.
Busybody
03-21-2002, 06:12 AM
Anybody have that arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics picture.
Shows Scurry how 2+2 = 4 and waits for the impending argument.
Scurry
03-21-2002, 09:51 AM
Clever!
soupypoopy
03-21-2002, 10:46 AM
I r teh winar!
http://www.bbsr.edu/Education/helle/Pirate.JPG
Busybody
03-21-2002, 01:56 PM
omg It's baby Blart!
Scurry
03-21-2002, 05:37 PM
Funny thing is, that kid could probably make a better case than Soupy.
Thslodar
03-26-2002, 02:37 AM
Lord help me....why do I come back?????
Soupy.....the name doesnt mean shit.....If Verant or SoE wanted to bitch at them for copyright....they might be able to. Everyone else that accesses the site has zero rights. You seem to have a mindset about what SHOULD be. Just a bit of info for ya Skippy.....the word SHOULD ranks up there with FAIR. IE: Nice idea....but NEVER gonna happen.
Why do I have the feeling that Soupy is....
1. Under 16 or..
2. A democrat.
Or ...
3. BOTH : )
AD Nnuk
03-26-2002, 04:12 AM
Fact is that Vova and Scurry are both right in a way.
Legally... Scurry's point is unquestionable. Datal currently owns the rz.net domain and -- as Scurry correctly pointed out -- he can turn the main page into a 24/7 streaming video of a jack-off club's events, if he likes.
But morally/ethically? In this particular instance Vova does indeed have a viable point because the only reason Datal "owns" rz.net is because the previous owner (Petunia) apparently went nuts and Datal was the guy who took it over in order to preserve -- and even add too -- it's integrety.
So Scurry's argument would hold up in court and Vova's wouldn't -- But that hardly makes Vova a 16 year old granola crunching socialist and it doesn't make him "wrong" either.
Hell.. A few years ago some dingbat got $10,000,000.00 from McD's because she spilled hot coffee on herself.
Legal? Yep.
Right? lol The "right" thing to do would have been to laugh the ditz and her ambulance chasing lawyer out of the friggin country.
Artfully Yours,
Nnuk
Artist of Death & Member of T.U.S. (http://www.tusrz.com)
Artful Death Gallery (http://www.artfuldeath.com)
Mawwle
03-26-2002, 08:17 AM
Actully that decision was overturned and the stupid bitch at Mcdonalds got a free cup of coffe, thats about it. Made my day lol(i hate stupid people that always gotta blame someone else for their mistakes)
Later
Mawwle/Vitas
Adept
03-26-2002, 12:07 PM
I'd be happy to host some RZ boards and content off of ralloszek.stephans.org. This is currently where my player database resides and I already have various bulletin boards for guilds and raid groups there.
Only problem is getting people to use it. =)
Thslodar
03-27-2002, 01:01 AM
ADNnuk;
Your terrify me.....only because throughout the insanity of every board I have seen you post on...you remain sane......and are also a PK : )
Most PK's sound like whack jobs on the boards. You Sir maintain decorum in all your posts : )
Takarae
03-27-2002, 01:36 AM
Nnuk = Hannibal Lector
AD Nnuk
03-27-2002, 02:35 PM
Thank you kindly, Thslodar -- I always have considered myself to be an island of sanity in a sea of madness. ;-)
Incidentally -- I do not "PK"... I "create".
Artfully Yours,
Nnuk
Master of the Arts & Member of T.U.S. (http://www.tusrz.com)
Artful Death Gallery (http://www.artfuldeath.com)
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